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sh58 09-02-2007 12:44 PM

tough spot with bottom 2
 
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($198)
Hero ($407.05)
UTG ($200)
MP ($259.20)
CO ($221.10)
Button ($119.31)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $39</font>, Hero calls $27.

River: ($97) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $66</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $97

villain is Pie_Voleuse, pretty laggy but not out of line much postflop in unraised pot. (28/21/6.8) over 1500 hands. his AF is strange. 17/4/1.5. i expect him to be betting this flop with any reasonable piece, and i just called to keep the other guy in who was really bad (he had recently won a monster pot when he called 3 barells with A hi (no draw), and beat the other guys K hi. when he checked i assumed he had given up, but then he raised. his line really confused me.

it is hard to put him on a hand really, but it would be a weird spot for a bluff.

do you think a call is in order because his line makes no sense?

deaders 09-02-2007 12:48 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
raise

the

flop

please.

As played fold the river.

sh58 09-02-2007 12:55 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
i didn't raise the flop because i wanted the idiot along for the ride who would presumably call with ATC here. the way i see it, i raise the flop, and usually win just what is in the pot, villain could have a wide range, so calling is far more profitable

sh58 09-02-2007 12:56 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
also deaders, what do you put him on here?

HoldEmNewby 09-02-2007 01:02 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
His range in my mind is KQ,44,33 or a draw. I like how you played it till the river. I'd call.

deaders 09-02-2007 01:02 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
44, 33, possibly KQ, mayyybe something like 56cc.

Bottom two isnt a hand to trap with and bring someone else along for the ride with.

HoldEmNewby 09-02-2007 01:05 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
i agree with deaders on raising the flop and not trapping; i do like the turn though especially bet size.

capodu 09-02-2007 01:07 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
everything is good, but you got to raise that flop. cant see a hand besides a bluff taht you will beat.

Jamougha 09-02-2007 01:39 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
Your reasoning is good. You should have bet more on the turn with the station in the pot. Call the river and laugh at his 65s.

KingGeedorah 09-02-2007 01:42 PM

Re: tough spot with bottom 2
 
uhh isnt this a better two pair or something like always


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