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KK, turn pairs board

No strong reads, but BB and UTG +1 both seem to be playing too many hands, and have been calling/betting most of them, but that's over a pretty small sample.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t2025)
Hero (t1760)
SB (t1210)
BB (t3985)
UTG (t790)
UTG+1 (t4295)
MP1 (t2595)
MP2 (t5095)
MP3 (t2225)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, 4 folds, Hero raises to t250, 1 fold, BB calls t200, UTG+1 calls t200.

Flop: (t775) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t200, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t600, BB calls t400.

Turn: (t1975) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t3135 (All-In), Hero?

After my flop re-raise, I was left with 900. Should I have pushed then?

Not sure what to do here. I think hands like Qx, Q7, Q9, 77, and 99 are all possible with this opponent. Should I call BS with only 900 left?

Re: KK, turn pairs board

He has you beat, unless a complete donk....fold, you still have 18bb left (.02)

Re: KK, turn pairs board

if the villan has Q isn't he 4 betting flop? I don't see folding here with the read and the amount behind

Re: KK, turn pairs board

an LP would prob. just call the 3 bet, esp. with QJ or QT.

Re: KK, turn pairs board

i'd shove on the flop. Almost any Q will call you. Now you are in a guessing game and dont know if he has a 7 or a Q

Re: KK, turn pairs board

Shoving the flop isn't bad.

My guess was that you were gonna jam on the turn, right?

You're almost always beat here. I still call because I'm an idiot, but you should fold.

Re: KK, turn pairs board

Shove the flop and you don't have this problem. Its barely over a pot sized raise and plenty of worse hands will call.

Re: KK, turn pairs board

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Not sure what to do here. I think hands like Qx, Q7, Q9, 77, and 99 are all possible with this opponent.

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I think most players are going to check and let you shove the turn if they have these hands, given your line so far.

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No strong reads, but BB and UTG +1 both seem to be playing too many hands, and have been calling/betting most of them, but that's over a pretty small sample.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t2025)
Hero (t1760)
SB (t1210)
BB (t3985)
UTG (t790)
UTG+1 (t4295)
MP1 (t2595)
MP2 (t5095)
MP3 (t2225)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, 4 folds, Hero raises to t250, 1 fold, BB calls t200, UTG+1 calls t200.

Flop: (t775) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t200, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t600, BB calls t400.

Turn: (t1975) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t3135 (All-In), Hero?

After my flop re-raise, I was left with 900. Should I have pushed then?

Not sure what to do here. I think hands like Qx, Q7, Q9, 77, and 99 are all possible with this opponent. Should I call BS with only 900 left?

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I think that you prob should have gotten it in on the flop, but the turn is still a call, b/c his range includes JT;T9 and underpairs...i call here getting 3 to 1.

Re: KK, turn pairs board

I shove flop...as played I swear at the monitor & shrug & pretend I shoved flop and stick the chips in