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iltor 08-30-2007 12:03 PM

Playing KK
 
Titan Poker 150.00/300.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($1120.00)
SB ($6208.00)
BB ($7480.00)
UTG ($1900.00)
UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($8581.00)</font>
MP <font color="#C00000">Hero ($10592.50)</font>
MP ($4610.00)
CO-1 ($7170.00)
CO ($4015.00)

Preflop: Hero is in MP with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 300.00, Hero raises to 1200.00, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls 900.00.

Flop (2850.00) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 1500.00, UTG+1 calls 1500.00.

Turn (5850.00) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 checks, Hero moves all-in for 7892.50, UTG+1 moves all-in for 5881.00.

River (19623.50) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


P.S. Four tables remaining, two tables paid. No reads on opponent.

Question: 1. Should I rase more preflop?
2. should I push on the flop with two dimonds or not?

levAA 08-30-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Playing KK
 
preflop is fine

i would make it about 2000 on the flop

turn if fine as villain is committed

xxGreat1xx 08-30-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Playing KK
 
yea i think 2000-2250 or so on flop is good. I slow down on turn however. I'd just check behind and make him bet on the river. If he shoves I would probably have to fold and if he fires out 2k or so I'd call

KidSensation 08-30-2007 12:49 PM

Re: Playing KK
 
I'd also bet about 2k on the flop.

I like the turn shove here, because I think it looks weak (to him) and you will get calls from AJ when playing weaker players.

However, this could be a leak of mine as I don't always know when to shut down when it appears someone is on a draw and a scare card comes. What do people think about a check on the turn here? Is that a bad option?

bambam16 08-30-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Playing KK
 
I agree with other responses - bet around 2000-2200 on the flop. This also makes the turn a little easier because a. if he just calls I think we can probably put him on some kind of J, whereas if he pushes it is more likely he's on a FD, and b. he'll be more committed to your push on the turn.

To answer your other question, don't push on the flop - it's a huge overbet. I like getting it all in on the turn better because we keep more hands that we beat in the pot.

I hate to play scared here but a limp/call and check/call flop would send up some warning flares here. Is he the kind of player who likes limp/calling something like AJ, QJ, JT preflop? If not, that limp/call makes me think small to mid pocket pair. I'm more worried about a set on the turn here than a flush.


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