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Sherman 08-29-2007 09:03 PM

AK OOP facing EP raise
 
PS $11 Nightly 20K.

Villain is 24/8/1.5 over 50 hands. Called my button raise once w/A7, then led a 97X flop, and called my value shove with QQ to double me up.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t9237)
SB (t18159)
Hero (t11598)
UTG (t5593)
UTG+1 (t10827)
MP1 (t6934)
MP2 (t9085)
CO (t18141)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1225</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>,Hero...

Edit b/c we aren't that deep.

Micro Donk 08-29-2007 09:27 PM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
i think im shoving if hes been paying off with marginal hands like you mentioned

xxGreat1xx 08-29-2007 10:22 PM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
wow, don't think I'd shove. I'd re-raise to 3k though. You could also just cc and check to him if you hit the flop and your sure to get a c bet out of him. And if you hit like an A 7 4 board you will prob stack his AQ or AJ. I'd raise or call, I'm not sure which one has a higher EV though

SuperUberBob 08-30-2007 12:34 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
I probably shove preflop. Any decent size re-raise commits about 1/3 of your stack preflop. Now that's fine if you plan to shove on any flop (Go-and-Go). But I'd prefer shoving preflop.

Sherman 08-30-2007 12:44 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
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I probably shove preflop. Any decent size re-raise commits about 1/3 of your stack preflop. Now that's fine if you plan to shove on any flop (Go-and-Go). But I'd prefer shoving preflop.

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Yeah. It felt like a really big overbet, but I didn't want to make a smaller raise b/c I felt he would call almost any raise or shove on me. Basically, I wanted to be sure I got the last bet in and had FE against his range rather than the opposite.

xxGreat1xx 08-30-2007 02:01 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
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I probably shove preflop. Any decent size re-raise commits about 1/3 of your stack preflop. Now that's fine if you plan to shove on any flop (Go-and-Go). But I'd prefer shoving preflop.

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Yeah. It felt like a really big overbet, but I didn't want to make a smaller raise b/c I felt he would call almost any raise or shove on me. Basically, I wanted to be sure I got the last bet in and had FE against his range rather than the opposite.

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yea put that way I can see how a shove is good here. A go and go could work with a raise to 3k.

But, do you think this is a good spot for a stop n go? If an ace falls you could prob stack off against AQ or AJ. I'm trying to find some spots during a tourny to work a stop and go into my game. Just wondering if this would be a good spot for that

Lego05 08-30-2007 02:53 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
Raise to 4k, call an all-in or shove any flop?

gholizad 08-30-2007 03:23 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
Isn't this like the ideal stack size for stop and go?

plzleenowhammy 08-30-2007 03:47 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
id call and play the pot

JammyDodga 08-30-2007 04:26 AM

Re: AK OOP facing EP raise
 
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Isn't this like the ideal stack size for stop and go?

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Why? I'm not so familiar with the stop and go, but here, wouldnt it just commit us to pushing 9k into a 3k pot on any flop, where we only get called by better hands?

For the other guy who said something about a stop and go, and busting him if we hit an ace on the flop... how is that a stop and go?


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