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gulisoff 08-27-2007 12:54 PM

flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $11.00
BB: $8.65
Hero (UTG): $9.15
CO: $8.20
BTN: $4.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($1.70) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.50</font>, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Turn: ($4.70) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.00</font>, Hero ?


as played fold?

whyzze 08-27-2007 12:56 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
ughhhh...I guess you have to pay for your mistakes.

AcXc bets this.

Lego05 08-27-2007 01:17 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
Raise the flop.

River's gotta be close I think.

dmoney 08-27-2007 01:37 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
What is wrong with your flop call? it's fine.

Calling flop is way better then raising flop. you only get action for a an over pair a J, a 5 or clubs if you raise but most likely he's bluffing so let him hang himself on the turn. Unfortunately for you a jack comes which either kills your hand or kills your action. If he has a J ur toast but if he has worse he's probably shutting down so checking behind here loses no value at all. it actually helps to let him bluff at the pot waaaay more often now. Your check on turn is to keep the pot small so u can call a river bet and or to induce a bluff from missed club draw.

mookboi 08-27-2007 01:39 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
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Calling flop is way better then raising flop.

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Call river.

CyberianBull 08-27-2007 01:45 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
This has been said 1000x... but.. try to plan your hand better next time. The flop is good for you, so raise for:
1. Value
2. To gain information

** Call river as played.

dmoney 08-27-2007 01:56 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
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This has been said 1000x... but.. try to plan your hand better next time. The flop is good for you, so raise for:
2. To gain information


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What does this mean? Raising for information is stupid...to me. calling and seeing what he does on turn and getting the same information as raising except doesn't commit 3x more chips. and doesn't fold out worse hands then yours.

if you feel he won't Double barrel and he fires another good bet, fold, if you think he's capalbe of double barreling with an underpair or a FD then call OR shove on turn.

WarhammerIIC 08-27-2007 01:59 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This has been said 1000x... but.. try to plan your hand better next time. The flop is good for you, so raise for:
1. Value
2. To gain information

** Call river as played.

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You can't raise for information. Raising commits you. Calling is the best option here because it's a WA/WB situation, and the only money you're going to make is from someone that is WB.

dmoney 08-27-2007 02:03 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
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You can't raise for information. Raising commits you. Calling is the best option here because it's a WA/WB situation, and the only money you're going to make is from someone that is WB.

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Well it's not totally WA/WB because there are undercard flush draws that you can be against as well. or NFD with is only slightly behind atm.

whyzze 08-27-2007 02:06 PM

Re: flop mistake. how to play turn-river?
 
so all jacks fold to a raise?


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