Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t820)
MP2 (t525)
MP3 (t1130)
CO (t770)
Button (t910)
SB (t710)
BB (t770)
UTG (t835)
Hero (t775)
UTG+2 (t755)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t57.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t15</font>, BB calls t15, UTG folds, Hero calls t15.

River: (t102.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t15</font>, BB calls t15, Hero calls t15.

Final Pot: t147.50

Results below:
SB has Qh Jc (one pair, jacks).
BB has 6c 8d (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Td Th (one pair, tens).
Outcome: SB wins t147.50.


Bet correctly, or was there a need for a raise? (in spite of the results - I've seen far worse hands show up here)

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

I raise pre-flop. But since you didn't, I bet the flop for sure. It's quite likely you have the best hand.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

What level was this at?

The problem is that your play gives no idea where you are in the hand. I bet the flop for 40 - 50, fold to a re-raise. Given you didn't bet the flop, I raise the turn (he could be betting any card on that board).

You need information, and you didn't make any moves to obtain it.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

Where is the WA/WB police?

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

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What level was this at?

The problem is that your play gives no idea where you are in the hand. I bet the flop for 40 - 50, fold to a re-raise. Given you didn't bet the flop, I raise the turn (he could be betting any card on that board).

You need information, and you didn't make any moves to obtain it.

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Yup.

If anyone could provide a link to thread(s) about WA/WB play (how to identify it and how to proceed) it would be appreciated. To me, unless I'm on a strong draw, I'm always WA/WB!

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

Just in general terms, I'd be happy to win a small pot. I wouldn't want to lose much of my stack here.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

Correct betting by the SB? No.

Correct calling by you? Eh, no.

I don't mind preflop or the flop, but I think you need to put in a raise on the turn. Raise to 60/75 or something - this will give you a lot of information.

Then you can call or check behind on the river depending what happnes.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

I think you played it fine.

The only thing I would have done different is probably bet the flop, but after that, there's still a good chance your tens are ahead and you're getting good odds to call.

You kept the pot small and lost it. No biggie.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

Any overcard, diamond, or medium card and your TT may no longer be ahead. With this many opponents you certainly are not WA. OTOH, you may be way behind if someone has a J. Given the anemic action on the flop, i think a bet is proper to try to take it down now or at least thin the field to give yourself some chance of winning this.

Re: Wa/Wb - TT - Correct Betting?
 

I'm pretty sure it's not terrible to either play weakly here and check/fold to reasonable bets at any point or to take a stab at the flop.

Folding to the tiny bets would be bad IMHO.