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bwolf4 08-25-2007 04:13 PM

Can I lay this down?
 
FTP $1 + $.25 45 player SnG NLHE
Blinds: 60/120

Stacks:
Villain 1650
UTG+1 3950
MP 5385
Hero 2020
SB 975
BB 5250

Preflop: Hero is dealt KdJd. Villain limps. UTG+1 folds. LP folds. Hero limps. SB folds. BB checks.

Flop: (3 players) Td 5s 7d. BB checks. Villain bets 420. Hero calls 420. BB folds.

Turn: (2 players) 8d. Villain checks. Hero bets 480. Villain raises all-in with 1110. Hero calls 630 more. Villain shows Ad9d for nut flush, beating my second nut flush.

The sick thing is I put him on a flush draw after the flop. I but him on AdQd and yet I still bet my King high flush and called his all-in.

There doesn't seem to be any way I can get away from that hand, despite my read. Anybody have a differing opinion?

4CardStraight 08-25-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
If we consider folding the king high flush, then we never call preflop with a suited king. No we dont fold here, standard issue cooler.

udbrky 08-25-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
The pot's too big. You'll see a set, or top pair, or two pair more than enough times to make calling that push profitable. It just sucks when it's the nuts and you pay off with the second nuts.

Rickyroodido 08-25-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
Move allin on the flop. Calling is terrible because you have to hit your hand to win, and its a big portion of your stack to call to se one card. Bad gamble.
Once in a while he will fold when you move in over his bet and the othertimes its probably a cionflip.

You can absolutely not fold with your stacksize. It would be an extremely bad play. However if you where to have alot of chips, it might be possible to fold given a very strong read and that you are a superstar.

Pokerfarian 08-25-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
I don't like 1 word answers, but......no.

SuperUberBob 08-25-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
I can't fold this. No decent player can. You can't fold here because of the pot size. Call and suck it up if you run into a cooler.

ssnyc 08-25-2007 10:28 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
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I don't like 1 word answers, but......no.

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mrjetguy 08-26-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
please do not fold here

deathduck 08-26-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
Terrible situation, this is where luck is a large factor. The only other move I see is to check after he checks and make thim think you will fold to large bets. Just call his bets and don't raise. This way if you are beat, you don't lose many chips and if your are not beat you still win some.

donquay 08-26-2007 04:39 PM

Re: Can I lay this down?
 
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Terrible situation, this is where luck is a large factor. The only other move I see is to check after he checks and make thim think you will fold to large bets. Just call his bets and don't raise. This way if you are beat, you don't lose many chips and if your are not beat you still win some.

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Ewww.


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