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boston 08-23-2007 12:08 PM

100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
Villian = 15/5, plays predictable poker and im almost positive has AA/QQ after his flop+turn call....river is one card in the deck i dont want to see and villian open pushes. Should i stick to my read? Or is this just one of those call it and blame it on stars being rigged if i lose?

Also any differences on bet sizing on flop+turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($106.35)
MP3 ($140.45)
CO ($103.15)
Button ($36.70)
SB ($108.10)
BB ($42.05)
UTG ($34.15)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($26)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($39.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG+1 calls $20.

River: ($79.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $61 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $61.

Final Pot: $201.50

Kos13 08-23-2007 04:38 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
Bet more on the turn. As played, this is a fist pump call on the river.

Yo'Maha 08-23-2007 05:40 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
This hand just sucks. His range is simply too large with that board to have any idea where you stand.

Possibly raise PF, but only cause you have position, but looking at his line - I don't see him letting it go. I see AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AQ, AK, 88, 66 here - 1/2 suck - 1/2 don't.

Which just makes it a coin-flip. He got tricky on the turn by the c/c which makes me think you're beat - but man oh man....this hand just sucks.

As played - depends on your mood. Sometimes I fold this - other times I push this. Gotta be player-read dependent at this point.

I can't wait to see the results.

SABR42 08-23-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
[ QUOTE ]
I see AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AQ, AK, 88, 66 here - 1/2 suck - 1/2 don't.

[/ QUOTE ]
AK and AQ are HEAVILY discounted because he called a flop raise when he just had ace-high. He never has JJ here.

Depending on how nitty he is, this might be a fold. If you had bet/raised bigger on flop and turn river would have been a no-brainer though.

SABR42 08-23-2007 06:05 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bet more on the turn. As played, this is a fist pump call on the river.

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If this guy is a 15/5 nit who rarely gets out of line I can't see what we beat.

Mr. Pozzer 08-23-2007 06:13 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
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Possibly raise PF, but only cause you have position,

[/ QUOTE ]LOL

Yo'Maha 08-23-2007 06:21 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
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[ QUOTE ]
Possibly raise PF, but only cause you have position,

[/ QUOTE ]LOL

[/ QUOTE ] ???? Explain?

Renton 08-23-2007 07:55 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
wow, gotta bet more on the turn.

As played, i find a fold on teh river.

Renton 08-23-2007 07:56 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
and raise more on flop

you shouldn't ahve even got to this river

Ctrl.Dominate 08-23-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 100NL set but bad river card for my read......
 
He hit the Q. Someone that tight probably isn't raising UTG with small PP very often.


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