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jallabar 08-22-2007 07:52 AM

AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($14.35)
SB ($22.65)
BB ($10.60)
Hero ($9.70)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.3</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $2.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero push or fold?

Nemesis69 08-22-2007 08:01 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
I'm not folding this. Board is too drawy. So I'd lean towards a shove. You still have a redraw.

Another possibility is too call and revaluate turn.

I like to hear what the others have to say about this, I'm a bit confused.

sabbooo 08-22-2007 08:04 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
a 4 bet would commit anyways, so yeah push or fold. his raising range is huge in this spot. he could have any pair higher than the 7 (88-jj i think qq+ would have 3 bet preflop), a naked 5 or combo draw like a5 of diamionds. obviously a set is in his range. i think u have to go broke here. if he instacalls u are beat or 50/50 against a combo draw.

Jzo19 08-22-2007 08:04 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
pooooshhhhhh

sabbooo 08-22-2007 08:08 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
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I'm not folding this. Board is too drawy. So I'd lean towards a shove. You still have a redraw.

Another possibility is too call and revaluate turn.

I like to hear what the others have to say about this, I'm a bit confused.

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i don't like calling cause there are so many ugly turn cards. what when a blank hits and he bets huge? when a scare card like a diamond shows off?
i think u only have two options on the flop.

restless 08-22-2007 08:11 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
no reads?

i think pushing is ok. pot is +5 and you have 8 left so not a big deal. it will often be a pair + a draw but sometimes worse. of course you'll be beat every now and then but thats not a problem, just run 2 diamonds on him.

LouderThanBombs 08-22-2007 08:18 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
There's no way he check minraises a set on this drawy board, my guess is some sort of draw, push.

jallabar 08-22-2007 08:22 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
no reads on villain, I was about to fold, I assumed he was on a set and giving me 2outs to improve, the best case would be a combo draw(flush/straight), but wouldnt give me odds to call either. I dont think, someone reraises top pair on the flop in a raised pot with 2callers or am I wrong? So to be honest, having aces looks nice, but a everything is leading towards a fold for me..

THoM. 08-22-2007 08:29 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
I see a lot of ppl on NL10 check-minraise sets on boards like this. I would consider folding here. If he had some kind of draw he would probably just call.

xeanatic 08-22-2007 08:31 AM

Re: AA fold to a raise on flop?
 
push you want to charge draws if he has a set so be it.


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