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franknagaijr 08-20-2007 06:56 PM

Negative Freeroll concept (PLO8 MTT)
 
Question - on this turn, with these stack sizes, and a non-made hand, is it better to check the turn HU and see what comes on the river, folding only to a counterfeited low that does not make aces up, and calling any other all-in bet assuming 2nd nut low should be good? Based on the stack size, I don't think there's any fold equity on the turn, but what cards could we possibly fold to on the river?

Edit: MTT new table, no info on villain other than stack size

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Tournament
Blinds: t75/t150
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3827
UTG+1: t1515
MP1: t5550
Hero: t8795
CO: t3560
Button: t2503
SB: t2921
BB: t4661

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t150 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t225)</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls t150 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t375)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls t75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t525)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t600, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t600</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1200)</font>.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1800, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ...

Villain has 765 remaining in stack, pot is T1800

redmarion 08-22-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Negative Freeroll concept (PLO8 MTT)
 
Push..... You can't be considering folding getting 1800+765):765 or 3.35:1 pot odds if he calls.
You want to take it down, NOW. It's H2H, what are you worried about it's only 10% of your stack.

Assani Fisher 08-22-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Negative Freeroll concept (PLO8 MTT)
 
you're not folding the river no matter what comes. Pushing is fine....I guess checking could be ok as long as you call if he bets on the river.

franknagaijr 08-22-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Negative Freeroll concept (PLO8 MTT)
 
Thanks. As played, I checked, and the awful black four came on the river, which meant that I was now behind on the low to any A3, A5, 35, and that I had the bottom two for high on a board that had a crapload of possible straights. Gack.

Should have put it in on the turn so I wouldn't have to make a puke decision.


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