KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

vilain was quite aggresive but only over a samplesize of like 20 hands (so no real reads).

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $58.27
BB: $48.31
UTG: $53.81
MP: $55.77
CO: $53.64
BTN: $26.47

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $5.00

Flop: ($14.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $25.00</font>Hero ??

Pot Size: $49.50

So its a 3 bet pot and i can narrow his range. I thought about qq, hands like aks.
Can i find a easy fold here? I mean he puts me on exactly on the hand i have (aa or kk), so my hand is very transparent. so i think he wouldnt move with aks and just call or fold. can i put him on just qq?

How would u play that hand? push or fold?

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

He might put you on AK as well, thinking you missed the flop. QQ is ofcourse a possibility. Couldnt he have something like AQ? You're saying he's quite agressive and he might think his TP is good and you missed. I'd push here.

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

Id fold

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

Yeah he was quite agressive. but i myself was quite tight played my normal nitty 16/12 style.

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

If you think he's aggressive enough to do this with AQ/AsKs in addition to the obvious QQ+, then you're pretty much a coin flip, which means you shove -

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

133,650 games 0.005 secs 26,730,000 games/sec

Board: 8s Qs 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.288% 47.17% 02.12% 63039 2835.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 50.712% 48.59% 02.12% 64941 2835.00 { QQ+, AsKs, AQs, AQo }

Outside of that, the only hands that make sense are QQ/KK/AA, and you're toast against that range.

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

KK overpair, Q high flop, 3-bet pot, NOT DEEP
= EASSY PUSH!

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

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KK overpair, Q high flop, 3-bet pot, NOT DEEP
= EASSY PUSH!

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Much simpler explanation than mine, and I'd pretty much agree. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

asks needs to come out of villains range--- hero has Ks

Re: KK in 3 bet pot - hard flop decision
 

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asks needs to come out of villains range--- hero has Ks

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Good point - I actually did take it out of villain's range when playing with pokerstove, but it didn't make any noticable difference - it's a coinflip if villain has AQ/QQ+ either way.