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matt85 08-19-2007 09:13 AM

Fold set on dry board?
 
This was an interesting hand i played yesterday. Didnt have PT on the pc i used though so a little vague.

25NL 6 Max complete donkey UTG with about $7 limps, CO with about $30 raises to $1.25, I call in BB 33 UTG calls. I have about $25. No reads on CO seems 25nl standard but not totally horrible.

Flop 359 rainbow. I lead for $2 and UTG moves in for $6 total (he could have anything hes horrible). Raiser thinks for a few seconds (he ISNT multi-tabling) and cold calls. Here i try to get tricky and call with the intention of check-raising or leading the turn again depending what comes off also didnt want to push him off AA/KK just yet and my hand can still look like TT-JJ.

Turn is Ad worst card in deck.

Bet/fold? c/r? c/c?

Heavens_Myst 08-19-2007 09:17 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
lol bet/call all in, no brainer

amplify 08-19-2007 09:18 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
If I have done my math correctly there is more in the pot than in your stack. I don't see how you can ever fold. Push.

LouderThanBombs 08-19-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
Easy Push

matt85 08-19-2007 09:51 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
There is about $20 in the pot and i have c.$18 left

What is the logic behind the push? And what worse hand calls? I can only think maybe A9 if hes bad

corsakh 08-19-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Turn is Ad worst card in deck.

[/ QUOTE ]

Combined with the topic of this thread is gold.

shark_fishin 08-19-2007 10:03 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
you should have raised flop, but dont automaticly put him on trip aces here, this isnt a 3bet pot so his range cann be a little wider. as you played it you need to bet, lower pocket pairs than AA will call, and the A doesnt really change much with you leading flop, other than you holding A9, so i think he will be willing to call down without an A. if he has a better hand, suck it up and reload

IlliniDave 08-19-2007 10:03 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
Once you led out for $2 on the flop and called raise, you should have had your commitment decision made, whether to go all-in or not.

With flopping a set, I would commit to go all-in and not be swayed unless a second Ace comes on the board. Need to make these pay off to compensate for the other times that you don't flop sets with low pocket pairs.

Thoughts?

shark_fishin 08-19-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
2nd A gives us full house, only hand that bothers us then is A9 instead of AA, so its same thing really, it just helps us a bit more because AK-AJ will be easier to get allin

matt85 08-19-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Fold set on dry board?
 
This is my thoughts here........

The flop shover can have anything. Hes a donkey and the raiser knows it. When the pfr thinks and COLDCALLS the flop raise he just cannot have anything other than AA/KK/55/99. Given the fact that he seems semi-solid I really dont think he has TT-QQ here often given the action.

Turn: if you lead and he shoves what exactly are you beating? How would this change if we were deeper?


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