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haarbalz 08-17-2007 07:22 AM

JJ preflop
 
no accurate stats on villains

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($15.55)
CO ($25)
Button ($2.75)
SB ($29.95)
Hero ($36.90)
UTG ($47.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero ?

haarbalz 08-17-2007 07:23 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
also, what would you do with QQ here

LouderThanBombs 08-17-2007 08:22 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
I fold JJ easily here, QQ is tough without any reads i'm prob reraising hoping he has AK/JJ/TT

choccypie 08-17-2007 10:01 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
If I had no reads on the villains, I'd fold and wait a few hands until I've assessed their ranges.

bob_sacamano 08-17-2007 10:29 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I fold JJ easily here, QQ is tough without any reads i'm prob reraising hoping he has AK/JJ/TT

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty near of what I think about this hand... QQ would give some thinking... but JJ I'd fold.

Rolen 08-17-2007 10:30 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
I call. I call QQ too

Check_The_Nuts 08-17-2007 10:32 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
I see soooo many ppl cold calling hands like JJ here and I think its just bad.

Stonewalled 08-17-2007 10:36 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
Awkward spot, I'm not sure what "the answer" is. I'm not crazy about any option.

If you reraise a decent amount, say to 15-18, you're really hoping for a fold b/c any call or re-raise means you're likely behind his range (and a re-raise would commit you to the pot). And maybe the fold equity is enough to make the re-raise the right play, but again not sure.

If you call, you're really just playing for set value (with incorrect odds, given the stack sizes), or to bet the flop if he checks a low card flop (but, I would expect a cb from most people most of the time).

If you fold, well, that seems kind of weak. But, actually, as I'm thinking it through, I can see a very strong argument for folding, given that raising/calling kinda suck.

[Just read above posts. I probably play QQ the same way as JJ here....whatever that is [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]]

monkeymaps 08-17-2007 10:36 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
cold calling is pretty much like playing 22-88 here IMO

corsakh 08-17-2007 10:38 AM

Re: JJ preflop
 
I am not a fan if cold calling JJ either. I most likely 4bet the button, fold to blinds.


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