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bruce 08-02-2007 05:21 PM

Three Barrel???
 
Bodog.

600 6 handed NL, villian and I have around $600 each.

I probably have a pretty tight image. I open raise from the button with 45s to $19. Small blind calls. Big blind folds. Small blind appears to be playing somewhat scared.

Flop comes Ac Ks 9h

SB checks I bet around $35 and he calls.

Turn Ac Ks 9h 2d

He quickly checks. I really thought if I made a pot sized
bet he would fold so I bet around $100 and of course he calls.

River brings Ac Ks 9h 2d 9s

He quickly checks. What is my best play and why?

Bruce

Praetor 08-02-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
thats a horrible card you should give up

bruce 08-02-2007 05:28 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
It's not exactly the best card in the world.

Bruce

Pasterbator 08-02-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's not exactly the best card in the world.

Bruce

[/ QUOTE ]

its actually the worst card. easy check behind.

bruce 08-02-2007 07:25 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
Of course it's a horrible card but if I check, unless villian is a bigger idiot than me, I'll lose virtually 100% of the time. Is it possible for me to take him off his hand? Normally I would check and just give up, but I'm in the middle
of the Sklansky/Miller book, where they discuss playing against weak tight players and how we should be putting them
in difficult spots with pressure betting.

Bruce

08-02-2007 07:26 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
a Q, J, or T on river is a MUCH MUCH better card to do this on

DevinLake 08-02-2007 08:02 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
I personally usually give up with one barrel when I get called in spots like this.

There aren't that may scare cards that can come on the turn or the river. That 2d certianly isn't scary.

Basically if I'm 3 barreling it is in spot where a lot of draws have missed, or the board gets so scary that most made hands can't call. Obviously it depends on whether I put them on a made hand or a draw.

When I'm two barreling, it's usually when a scare card comes. Like and over card to the board. Or, the board was so drawy, that they are rarely just calling with a very strong hand on the flop (but in this case, I'm often set to 3-barrel them when I make the decision to fire the 2nd barrel.)

DevinLake 08-02-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Three Barrel???
 
[ QUOTE ]
Of course it's a horrible card but if I check, unless villian is a bigger idiot than me, I'll lose virtually 100% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is a bad mentality. This is a need to win every pot, which usually just results in spew. Sometimes it's better to lose what you've already invested 100% of the time, then lose a lot more a large percentage of the time.

bruce 08-03-2007 05:31 PM

Results
 
I decided to push on the river and villian timed out and folded. Retrospectively I believe my play was pretty dumb but I guess it's better to be lucky than smart. With the board pairing unless I'm against an absolute moron, this is more than likely a very -EV play.

Bruce


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