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Little John 07-27-2007 09:55 AM

$60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
preflop raiser is Rider1234, memmber of team ho chi minh. he is a winning player. these guys don't exactly play 2+2 style and imo are pretty tricky. his full table stats are 15/9, so he is a bit looser than the typcial 8+ tabling nit. i have no specific notes on him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t1500)
UTG (t1490)
UTG+1 (t1130)
MP1 (t1530)
MP2 (t1450)
MP3 (t960)
CO (t1950)
Hero (t1465)
SB (t2025)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t90, CO calls t90, Hero calls t90, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t405) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t90</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t90, Hero calls t90.

Turn: (t675) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (t675) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t150</font>, CO calls t150, Hero calls t150.

Final Pot: t1125

Poker Jon 07-27-2007 10:00 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
As played river call is fine.

Why arnt you betting the turn here?

darinvg 07-27-2007 10:24 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
I'd bet the turn too. TPTK w/ nut flush draw.

PTB 07-27-2007 10:31 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
I think the pf call is marginal but ok
flop is fine.
Please bet this turn here
river is ok too

Chipchucker5 07-27-2007 10:49 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
Yeah, I agree with the others that you should bet the turn. You have a monster hand...gotta get some value out of it. Other streets look good as played.

ryanghall 07-27-2007 11:00 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
Fold preflop IMO. As played, I can't believe nobody is suggesting to raise the flop. If you're gonna call w/ AQ preflop against a raise, you might as well raise when you hit your best flop.

Ryan

KoreanBuffet 07-27-2007 11:03 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
i don't hate PF b/c there are two other callers from whom to extract value. But ya def raise Flop with TPTK. As played bet turn call river as others have said.

darinvg 07-27-2007 11:07 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
I usually fold PF as well but w/ the raise and 2 callers I didn't think it was bad.

Little John 07-27-2007 11:15 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
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I usually fold PF as well but w/ the raise and 2 callers I didn't think it was bad.

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i'm not sure why you are questioning me, i have a lifetime roi at the 114's of 314.5%

Chipchucker5 07-27-2007 11:15 AM

Re: $60 - L2 AQs - it is too late to fold preflop
 
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Fold preflop IMO. As played, I can't believe nobody is suggesting to raise the flop. If you're gonna call w/ AQ preflop against a raise, you might as well raise when you hit your best flop.

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I'm really not crazy about raising the flop...are we trying to get it AI with top pair against a reg who raised from EP and c-bet the flop? Not to mention the caller who could be trapping with like 4's or QJ.


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