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FineStyle 07-24-2007 12:02 PM

St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
Did i play that hand too aggressive?

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (10.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (21.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 24.20 BB

KitCloudkicker 07-24-2007 12:05 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
why did you bet the flop?

RemyXO 07-24-2007 12:10 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
Don't understand the preflop raise from the blinds with KJs.
Don't understand the flop lead with most probably the worst hand and 4 outs to improve.
The rest is irrelevant.

EDIT: Discount Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. It's ~3 outs. Plus reverse domination.

Xhad 07-24-2007 12:12 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
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Don't understand the preflop raise from the blinds with KJs.

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After 5 limpers not raising is a pretty significant mistake.

KitCloudkicker 07-24-2007 12:12 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
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Don't understand the preflop raise from the blinds with KJs.

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you consider this a huge leak after 5 limpers OOP? if so, why?

Todd 07-24-2007 12:13 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
C-betting into 5 people on an A-hi flop with KJ sooted may be a bit rash. IF you check call 1, then you are getting good odds to draw to your GSSD.

I would probably ck/c and hope it was only 1 bet back to me.

Turn and river are fine.

Todd 07-24-2007 12:15 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
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Don't understand the preflop raise from the blinds with KJs.

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you consider this a huge leak after 5 limpers OOP? if so, why?

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if none of the 5 limpers raise, then you likely have the best hand, and way more than 16% equity in the pot, EV-wise.

I think.

RemyXO 07-24-2007 12:15 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
I don't consider it a huge leak, but I don't think it's such a great move OOP. Give me button, I'd raise.
Though I'm a bit of a nit preflop.

KitCloudkicker 07-24-2007 12:16 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
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if none of the 5 limpers raise, then you likely have the best hand, and way more than 16% equity in the pot, EV-wise.

I think.

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you're correct.

KitCloudkicker 07-24-2007 12:16 PM

Re: St8 on the turn - too agressive?
 
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I don't consider it a huge leak, but I don't think it's such a great move OOP. Give me button, I'd raise.

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why does it make that much difference? your preflop equity doesnt change.


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