100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

Villains:

BB is 29/17/2.2. I have no reason to believe he is out of line here.

SB is 33/3/4.5. His WTSD is something like 17. He is capable of bluffing and making weird plays on flops and turns, but is usually straightforward on the river. I've seen him minraise/fold a paired flop and a Qhigh flop. I've also seen him minraise/push a twotone flop with TPTK. All examples are from HU pots only. He probably sees me as an aggressive player and minraises to feel me out.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $109.98
BB: $140.81
UTG: $99.50
Hero (BTN): $119.28

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $16.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00, SB calls $12.00

Three reasons for calling.
(1) BB is probably not bluffing, and I think it would be pretty easy to get it in with a non-threatening board, or least nab a c-bet in case he is squeezing light.
(2) SB is likely to come along, giving me an opportunity to make more money postflop in case BB is not willing to comply.
(3) I have position.

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $33.00</font>, Hero calls $33.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $66.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $124.81</font>, Hero ...

I called the first time around to keep BB betting, since I know all the money is getting in before showdown anyway. Who knows, maybe SB will even come along with a AJ/JT type hand. When he minraises, I figure he probably has a set, since he's not repping much else. When BB comes over top, I figure him for an overpair or maybe maybe something like AJ.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

I don't mind little extra risk to make a lot more money PF, and hero has easy call on flop btw.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

Maybe you're ahead of the BB but the SB is never bluffing here and rarely value betting a worse hand. I'd expect to see a set here from the Sb about 85% of the time.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

Didn't you read that he constantly puts in mini-raise bets? I wouldn't be surprised if he had a had AJ here.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

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Maybe you're ahead of the BB but the SB is never bluffing here and rarely value betting a worse hand. I'd expect to see a set here from the Sb about 85% of the time.

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I think just the opposite.. I don't think BB shoves anything less than AA after a flat call and a ch/minraise (he may not be paying attention to SB's flop tendencies).

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

Fold. Occasionally they flip AJ/QQ but a vast majority of the time youre far behind given action.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

as played I call

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

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Fold. Occasionally they flip AJ/QQ but a vast majority of the time youre far behind given action.

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i had a spot almost exactly like this except i had AA, and both players had me beat. i felt like i misplayed the hand afterwards, but i actually allowed myself to get away by playing so passively.

this is a spot where you SHOULD NOT talk yourself into calling since you have underrepped your hand. someone has a set or AA almost always.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

ez fold. Too much action 3-way.

Re: 100NL, KK, i like threeways with lots of pot
 

im guessing since you posted this that you had them both beat but i think the majority of the time you are way behind at least one of them to make this a fold.