100r river bluff...
 

This is deep in the 100r- new to table and absolutley no info on the guy--im chiplead with 35 left....what are your thoughts on my river push...he has like 15k left after his 3200 bet...I really think hes valuebetting a K here...KQ AK and maybe even KJ are all possible...so is this play bad? good? im a huge donk? help...

PokerStars Game #10870281333: Tournament #54722205, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/07/10 - 16:39:29 (ET)
Table '54722205 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero(63650 in chips)
Seat 2: hervattin (14350 in chips)
Seat 3: Tony_Hibbert (17801 in chips)
Seat 4: csaboka (17351 in chips)
Seat 5: finnemann (40403 in chips)
Seat 6: rur11 (25012 in chips)
Seat 7: tcemm (23861 in chips)
Seat 8: amir35 (22989 in chips)
Seat 9: mik425 (45346 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 75
hervattin: posts the ante 75
Tony_Hibbert: posts the ante 75
csaboka: posts the ante 75
finnemann: posts the ante 75
rur11: posts the ante 75
tcemm: posts the ante 75
amir35: posts the ante 75
mik425: posts the ante 75
hervattin: posts small blind 400
Tony_Hibbert: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [2s 2d]
csaboka: folds
finnemann: folds
rur11: folds
tcemm: raises 1600 to 2400
amir35: folds
mik425: folds
Hero: calls 2400
hervattin: folds
Tony_Hibbert: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 3h 9c]
tcemm: bets 2400
Hero: calls 2400
*** TURN *** [Th 3h 9c] [7s]
tcemm: checks
Hero: checks
*** RIVER *** [Th 3h 9c 7s] [Kc]
tcemm: bets 3200
Hero: raises 34400 to 37600

Re: 100r river bluff...
 

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im a huge donk?

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I don't know, but you played this hand like one.

Fold pf/fold flop/bet turn/fold river looks good to me.

Re: 100r river bluff...
 

I don't like the play on most streets. First off, I think villain is too shallow to be profitably calling with 22 here for set value. I might call if i had a specific read that i could take this pot away a lot post flop though.

I think a bluff is more believable on the turn after you float and he checks to you, so I probably bet when checked to on the turn if I call that flop.

Basically you floated a draw heavy flop, checked behind on the turn, then shove a river that completes just one of the possible draws (QJ). Personally, if i were the villain in this hand I would think you had QJ or nothing and would definitely call with a K, and would consider calling with a lot weaker than that.

Also FWIW - while I would almost certainly never get to the river this way with 22, your hand actually has showdown value here. If I were going to stick more chips in the pot, a call might be as good as a push here because on this board with this action I can't think a whole lot of hands that will fold here that you're behind, and the ones you're ahead of will fold to your raise anyways. I'm honestly not sure if the hands you get to fold out here to take the pot down make up for the additional losses you take against the hands that do call here.

I'm not sure i'm making a ton of sense here, but I don't like it. Either fold pre-flop, fold the flop since it's a very coordinated board, or bet the turn after you float. I think all 3 of those lines are reasonable here.

-Rizen

Re: 100r river bluff...
 

hmm dont think i ever fd flop or preflop....bet turn yea...prolly, but even with a hand like his hes gonna bluffpush me...

Re: 100r river bluff...
 

I really don't like the river raise... If you made it like 15k or something it might look more like you were trying to get max value w/ QJ, yet still over betting the pot... The shove just makes it a little too obvious that it's a bluff

Re: 100r river bluff...
 

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im a huge donk?

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I don't know, but you played this hand like one.

do the opposite of everything.


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fyp.