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Crane 07-06-2007 05:36 PM

Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
It's a 10-20 blind no-limit home game. Last hand of the night. Under the gun player goes all in for $2000 before the cards are dealt. All fold to the last man, which is you.

What is the minimum hand(s) you need to call with and have the edge no matter how slight?

itWASaDREAM 07-06-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
Probably the same hand I would normally call an all in with.
I don't think I would flop a coin with 100bb at at a 10-20 game just beause he went all in blind.

Grasshopp3r 07-06-2007 07:16 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
Assuming that everyone looked first before folding would improve your EV as they presumably folded inferior hands. I would need to have Q7o to call, which is a slight edge over a random hand (51.8/41.2)

If you are sitting at a game, you need to have the BR to make that call.

Crane 07-06-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
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Assuming that everyone looked first before folding would improve your EV as they presumably folded inferior hands. I would need to have Q7o to call, which is a slight edge over a random hand (51.8/41.2)

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Are there other hands similar in probability to Q7. Such as J9, K2 or 78s, etc.

jogsxyz 07-06-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
Only you can answer that question. How much do you want to gamble? Would it hurt to lose $2K?
If yes, call only as 75% favorite. TT or better.
67% good enough? 88+ and AKs.

jogsxyz 07-06-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
Oh, you're willing to gamble.

Any pair, ace or king.
Q3s, Q5o, J6s, and J8o.
any two suited 8 and above.
T9o.

DavidC 07-06-2007 10:50 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Assuming that everyone looked first before folding would improve your EV as they presumably folded inferior hands. I would need to have Q7o to call, which is a slight edge over a random hand (51.8/41.2)

If you are sitting at a game, you need to have the BR to make that call.

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How big of a BR would you need to make this call?

I'm guessing that you have no idea.

Anyways, I'd call with something like Ax Kx but not Qx, a6 is I think like 54-56% vs a random hand so that sounds good enough for me.

FWIW I have no idea what kind of a roll I would have to have to make that call either.

DavidC 07-06-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Assuming that everyone looked first before folding would improve your EV as they presumably folded inferior hands. I would need to have Q7o to call, which is a slight edge over a random hand (51.8/41.2)

If you are sitting at a game, you need to have the BR to make that call.

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How big of a BR would you need to make this call?

I'm guessing that you have no idea.

Anyways, I'd call with something like Ax Kx but not Qx, a6 is I think like 54-56% vs a random hand so that sounds good enough for me.

FWIW I have no idea what kind of a roll I would have to have to make that call either.

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edit: also, let's assume that you didn't have enough of a BR to make that call with a 1% edge.. it would probably still be quite +EV to sit in the game and just not take those sorts of flips, and perfectly within acceptable RoR for your bankroll too.

mce86 07-07-2007 03:40 AM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
If your'e properly rolled you would and should!

Arito 07-07-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Dark All In--What Do You Call With?
 
22+, Any Ace, Any King. Queens down to Q7.


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