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hamnegger 07-05-2007 02:50 AM

do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #2827684357: $15,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (21306267), Table 48 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:35:53 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: hubig (17,608)

Seat 3:hero (3,895)
Seat 4: VargheseCorp (6,733)
Seat 5: NFLJUNKY (4,395)
Seat 6: swifterjets (10,955)
Seat 7: Chinook42 (8,779)
Seat 8: nhungoc2 (8,955)
Seat 9: alea_iacta_est (9,640)

nhungoc2 posts the small blind of 150
alea_iacta_est posts the big blind of 300

The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qs Kh]
hubig raises to 600
johnnypoker69 folds


hero calls 600
VargheseCorp raises to 6,708, and is all in
all fold to raiser
hubig folds

hero calls 3,270, and is all in

smittymatt 07-05-2007 02:57 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
Shove or fold preflop.

Heyda 07-05-2007 06:07 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
Fold PF.

Soulman 07-05-2007 07:15 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
Info on minraiser?

Pokerfarian 07-05-2007 09:59 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
Fold > Shove >>>> Call of his initial raise, the 2nd decision is probably a narrow call but you should never have to make a 2nd decision here.

SonofDjugashvili 07-05-2007 10:06 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
As said, fold P/F. You don't have enough chips to call a raise, unless you want to get cute with AA. There is an argument to be made for R/R AI, but I don't like it - you have no FE to speak of, and you are behind any A or any pair. As played, call the A/I I guess - there is a bunch of dead money in the pot, and, if you are lucky, he has TT or JJ.

hamnegger 07-05-2007 11:19 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
i called and i won. he had ak. the reason i had flat called was i was too big to just open shove and a mini raise is usually weak. if you read sklansky's forum he says to speculate w a marginal hand when u have that awkward stack bc if u miss the flop then u can just shove next quality hand you pick up. most 2 plus 2 ppl don't like this strategy but i am trying it and i agree with him. the pot odds i thought were just good enough to call his reraise.

Pokerfarian 07-05-2007 11:37 AM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
He's raised to 600, you have 3800, thats almost the perfect stack to shove over, I don't think it's awkward at all, it's a very normal push/fold decision

Dismas 07-05-2007 01:54 PM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
[ QUOTE ]
There is an argument to be made for R/R AI, but I don't like it - you have no FE to speak of

[/ QUOTE ]

You gain some protection from the big stack still having to act after open raising (mini) utg…


OP
[ QUOTE ]
if you read sklansky's forum he says to speculate w a marginal hand when u have that awkward stack bc if u miss the flop then u can just shove next quality hand you pick up.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you’re going to call a raise for all of your chips then I don’t think the above applies. Do you?

jonnyd 07-05-2007 02:03 PM

Re: do i cal this reraise all in w kq?
 
i fold this pre sometimes, shove sometimes, depends on how frequent the guy has been open minraising

after the guy overshoves though its a fold, i mean.. that is why you flat called pre right? so you could fold?


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