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neurotiq 07-03-2007 06:23 AM

KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
Okay, I have a feeling that I played this all wrong, but I have no idea how I should have played it. Your insight is greatly appreciated.

I'm in MP2. Button is tight-aggressive. SB is loose-passive (a total loony, really. On several occasions, s/he has limp-raised with offsuit rags. Almost never raises, but frequently limp-reraises for some reason).

I'm dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. All folds in front of me. I raise. Button reraises. SB calls. I call.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

All checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks. I have so many outs, so I bet. Button raises. SB reraises. I cap. All calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I hit my gutshot straight. It's checked to me. I bet. Button raises. SB reraises. I call. Button calls.

BigBadBabar 07-03-2007 06:37 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
why bet turn? hope for the free card.
turn cap is awful, you have king high.
river someone has a boat, probably flopped...i think you can betfold. you shouldn't have even got this far tho.

neurotiq 07-03-2007 06:45 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
So, if you're on a draw, do you always want the free card (if you can get one)? Or are there situations where betting is appropriate?

And if the button had bet behind me, would you have called the turn? What if the button bet and SB raised?

Thanks in advance! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

KitCloudkicker 07-03-2007 06:58 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
awful.

a flush draw is not a made hand, esp on the turn. capping is a pointless spew of chips.

and the board is paired, so you could be drawing dead already.

and fold the damn river...you're crushed. its obvious you have a straight and SB doesnt care anyway.

sorry you lost to TT

StrictlyStrategy 07-03-2007 07:01 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
$20 says OP didn't lose to TT.

BigBadBabar 07-03-2007 07:17 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
well whatever it was, sb owned the [censored] out of everyone. i vote for 77 i think.

BigBadBabar 07-03-2007 07:17 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
or maybe 99 or tt.

neurotiq 07-03-2007 07:22 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
Button won, actually. SB had 75 offsuit (as I said before, SB is a total loony and that's the only explanation I can come up with for why s/he would call three bets preflop).

Button was the one with pocket Ts. Not sure why button pulled back at the end and didn't cap. Afraid of pocket 7s...?

neurotiq 07-03-2007 07:30 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
Really strangely played by all players, I guess. Thanks for help, by the way. Perhaps someday I'll figure this poker thing out...

TheCount212 07-03-2007 11:21 AM

Re: KJs: flush draw + gutshot + two overcards on turn
 
check the turn, for God's sake. Capping on a paired board is suicidal.


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