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SupaDupa 06-25-2007 06:25 PM

10nl 6max: second pair help
 
Can any of u guys help me on a standard play for these hands?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($23.20)
UTG ($23.95)
MP ($10)
CO ($13.70)
Hero ($9.30)
SB ($6.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.35</font>, Hero calls $0.35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, BB folds, CO calls $0.70.

Turn: ($2.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($2.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2</font>, Hero ????.





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MP ($22.95)
CO ($20.80)
Button ($9.70)
SB ($17.20)
Hero ($8.65)
UTG ($6.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($0.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($2.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.25</font>, Hero ????.

TredWel 06-25-2007 06:38 PM

Re: 10nl 6max: second pair help
 
Hand 1: Fold preflop, KJo is not a hand to be playing against a raiser. Fold the river - about the only thing you are beating here is a whiffed club draw without the Ac.

Hand 2: I would prefer a flop lead or c/r to c/c - your hand is likely best. As played, fold the turn, you aren't beating anything but a bluff.

losingdonkey 06-25-2007 06:39 PM

Re: 10nl 6max: second pair help
 
Fire on the turn in hand one. As played you've induced a bluff, call. Hand 2 lead/fold turn.

BevillTheDevil 06-25-2007 06:52 PM

Re: 10nl 6max: second pair help
 
1st hand id be more inclined to fold or 3bet pf but since we have pos i guess a call isnt too bad. id probably bet more on the flop. River is close. The turn check does often induce a bluff but guys here cant let down there Ax hands at 10NL. So i guess it could go either way, very villian dependent.

2nd hand: id probably just fold pf. JQ OOP sucks. As played, if villian cbets often i dont mind a c/r on this flop to atleast get some value out of him. A b/f wouldnt be too bad but if villian is aggro he could raise this flop alot with hands we beat and get us off our hand pretty easily...c/c just seems ultra weak and puts us in tough spots on other streets most the time IMO.

losingdonkey 06-25-2007 06:55 PM

Re: 10nl 6max: second pair help
 
I agree these hands should be folded preflop


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