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HOWMANY 06-15-2007 02:47 PM

I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
75 live about 4 handed. If there was a PT for live games then this villain would be semiloose passive. Although he is passive he will still exhibit some normal aggression postflop with real hands like top pair or very big draws. His flop raises usually mean a reasonable connection with the flop in the form of draw or middle pair+. A big bet street raise means you're headed for white water unless you have a huge hand. He misses mountains of value on his hands in general and is probably one of the worst players on the river that I have played with in a long time. Strangely enough I feel he actually plays worse in position on the river by checking down hands that are 100% winners while OOP he seems to understand the concept of betting when you are going to call a bet anyway and you have a decent hand.

I open A9, he calls in BB.

Flop: J93r
He c/c

Turn: 8 offsuit
He c/c

River: 4
He bets

I don't think I've ever seen him c/c flop with top pair. That certainly doesn't mean he hasn't done it before but I'm smelling a 9 of some sort here so I raise.

bugstud 06-15-2007 02:51 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
basically you're only gonna lose to like pair+4 soooted and 44 and only 44 is gonna 3 ball so this seems like a good protected raise spot.

danzasmack 06-15-2007 02:57 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
Yeah I raise here too vs. described opponent.

Sailboats 06-15-2007 04:26 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
Given the read, i think you played this hand very well.

Joe Tall 06-15-2007 04:32 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
Nice hand. Who was this?

HOWMANY 06-15-2007 04:45 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
Jamie

bigjoet 06-16-2007 06:11 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
nh...

do you fold to a 3 bet?

HOWMANY 06-16-2007 10:24 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
nh...

do you fold to a 3 bet?

[/ QUOTE ]

Easily. As far as I know this player isn't even capable of semibluff c/r the turn so there's probably a negative percent chance of him being able to bet/3bet bluff the river.

Michael Davis 06-16-2007 11:40 PM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
I dunno, this river play looks to be a whole lot of BS, meaning he most often has a hand that he's just going to chuck. Not sure why it's impossible or even unlikely that he made some nasty two pair on the river, and while I think you're a pretty big favorite on the first river bet going into the pot, the second is going to look pretty bad when it gets matched.

-Michael

HOWMANY 06-17-2007 12:30 AM

Re: I can\'t persuade myself that he has a better hand
 
This is what I'm somewhat afraid of. I think he will fold an 8 here but I'm hopeful he'll make a terrible call with a 9.


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