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Colombo 06-12-2007 04:18 PM

Me and my friend disagree on my river shove..
 
Villain is 35/6/.9, he seems pretty terrible overall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($28.50)
SB ($212.45)
BB ($211.30)
UTG ($134.40)
Hero ($588.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10.

Turn: ($35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $44</font>, Hero calls $44.

River: ($123) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $527.7</font>


What do you think of a shove if

A) Villain checks
B) Villain bets $80

orange 06-12-2007 04:20 PM

Re: Me and my friend disagree on my river shove..
 
i think you played this fine. i like the shove. i would probably be more inclined to call if he bet $80, not sure why though.

dirtytricks 06-12-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Me and my friend disagree on my river shove..
 
If his aggression factor is right you are toast!

I just call river to see what he is doing. Inducing a reraise maybe??

joeblack 06-12-2007 04:30 PM

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If his aggression factor is right you are toast! Villain is 35/6/.9

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QFT

.9!!!!!!!! I don't think I shove QQ on this board with .9 leading out.

fees 06-12-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Me and my friend disagree on my river shove..
 
I like a shove in all situations here, GET THE $$$ IN THERE!!!

J-Bo 06-12-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Me and my friend disagree on my river shove..
 
I agree we're usually ahead here but what hands that we beat call our river push?

Panthro 06-12-2007 05:10 PM

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i think you played this fine. i like the shove. i would probably be more inclined to call if he bet $80, not sure why though.

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this is reasonable. Probably because donks usually let you know where they are with the size of their bets. I doubt he bets 22 into a ~120 pot on the river w/ a hand that beats us.

BustoPro 06-12-2007 05:15 PM

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i think you played this fine. i like the shove. i would probably be more inclined to call if he bet $80, not sure why though.

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this is reasonable. Probably because donks usually let you know where they are with the size of their bets. I doubt he bets 22 into a ~120 pot on the river w/ a hand that beats us.

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Cmon everyone this is an awful spot to shove. What worse hands are calling and what better hands are folding?

kolotoure 06-12-2007 05:20 PM

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i think you played this fine. i like the shove. i would probably be more inclined to call if he bet $80, not sure why though.

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this is reasonable. Probably because donks usually let you know where they are with the size of their bets. I doubt he bets 22 into a ~120 pot on the river w/ a hand that beats us.

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Cmon everyone this is an awful spot to shove. What worse hands are calling and what better hands are folding?

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This push is fine. A .9 will call with so many random hands that we have crushed. Look at his river bet size relative to his turn bet, I think he has a better hand ~never here

Colombo 06-12-2007 05:20 PM

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i think you played this fine. i like the shove. i would probably be more inclined to call if he bet $80, not sure why though.

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this is reasonable. Probably because donks usually let you know where they are with the size of their bets. I doubt he bets 22 into a ~120 pot on the river w/ a hand that beats us.

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Cmon everyone this is an awful spot to shove. What worse hands are calling and what better hands are folding?

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Not to sound ignorant or anything, but do we even need to think about it? I don't usually think about what hands donks are gonna call me with. Donks are donks, and they do irrational things. This could be a leak but I don't know.

If you were talking about shoving over the $80 bet then it gets closer.


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