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Roy Gonzo 06-11-2007 10:09 AM

Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
I'm playing 2/4 PLHE at an Austrian Casino. The Game is incredibly juicy. 9 players at the table, most of them with marginal poker knowledge and the "I can afford to lose XX€ tonight" mindset. Straddle has been on for the last hour or so. I've doubled up twice and have a ~ 800€ stack.

Three callers in front of me as I pick up 76d on the button. I raise pot to steal and get two flat-callers. One (1) has been calling off his whole buy-in for the last 15 minutes and has only about 100€ left. Second (2) has been very quite and not played a lot of hands. He has about 600€ more in front of him.

pot is ~ 160€ and Flop comes 6h 7h 10x

1 Check - 2 Check - I raise pot - 1 calls All-In - 2 thinks a little bit and calls as well.

pot is ~ 650€ and Turn brings a 2x

2 has about 450€ left and checks. Shove or check behind?

herbstl 06-11-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
you're playing at the Casino Salzburg - this game is very juicy - I played there when I was in Salzburg last October.

I check behind because I don't want to risk 150BB with bottom 2pair. The decision on river will be much tougher then. But I hate bottom 2 pair....

donkmagic 06-11-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
i dont see how u check this turn behind, since its all going in on the river anyway and the boards so draw heavy

Roy Gonzo 06-11-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
Yeah, it was in Salzburg.

I dont think 2 has an overpair because I'm pretty sure he would've either raised or reraised my steal attempt preflop.

I can however see him calling the flop with most hands that got a piece of it, from a set to bottom pair to all kind of flush draws.

Given the game flow he's easily capable of calling a turn shove with any flush draw. So if he's on a hand like J9h I probably miss some value.

And as I mentioned I believe that he would call down any holding like A 10 or K 10.

I think I'm ahead against his range.

Than again, I dont wanna bust with 7s up! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

herbstl 06-11-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
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i dont see how u check this turn behind, since its all going in on the river anyway and the boards so draw heavy

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depends on villain if he is aggro or not. If he ckecks the river I valuebet 1/2 Pot and see him calling with AT or KT

Nielsio 06-11-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
Push and it's not close.

Nielsio 06-11-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
Also I hate preflop given the circumstances.

Roy Gonzo 06-11-2007 11:46 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
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Also I hate preflop given the circumstances.

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I was doubling up pretty fast and then played reasonably tight for the next hour. Prior to this hand I was card-dead and folded for 2 blind-rounds.

I see why you hate the play against the small stack calling station. I didn't realize that he had only around 140€ left when I made the play preflop.

VanBeek 06-11-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
It is live, so i would go with my read. Do you think 2 was thinking about folding before he called, or was it the typical 'I have a straight, lets appear weak' kind of thinking?

Most people would check/raise flop or lead turn with a set, so that isn't very likely. Except when he's the 'always slowplay 2 pair+' type of playe, or when you rarely raised preflop and he thinks you have JJ+ 100% of the time.

Two pair isn't very likely either, because tight players don't call raises with T7 or T6.

Without a read I would move in and expect him to have a flush or a combo draw, or AT. You lose a whole bunch of value by giving a free river away on this board.

xSCWx 06-11-2007 11:49 AM

Re: Live 2/4 Awkward Two Pair
 
Shove.


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