5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

My first post here, so please excuse any errors/rookie mistakes I might make:

About 1/2 way into my second orbit (don't have a read on anyone), 3 mp limpers and hero limps with 4s4c in HJ, button insta-raises, sb folds, bb and all call.

flop: QsJs4h
all check to hero who donks, button insta-raises again; bb folds, others call two

Hero jams pot now or leads turn on blank?

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

jams?This is limit.
Suppose its a FL hand:I call and raise the turn ui/none spades,because you might get an overlap from the other 2 players.

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

* grunch *

On drawy flops I just ram sets for all they are worth; make others pay now! If button caps I'd lead turn and then perhaps think of slowing down if he still raised. And I'd probably lead turn regardless of turn card, I'd hate to let the turn check thru; even if someone has made their straight/flush by then you'll have lottsa outs.

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Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

preflop is fine
flop: 3 bets please

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

Sorry 'bout the "jams" M8, perhaps "re-raise" is better phraseolgy?

At any rate, do I 3-bet flop, bloat the pot, or call and lead with my set knowing button will make mp players call 2 cold?

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

You 3 bet... you don't want those spade draws in there... but if they're dumb enough to pay two bets for it, it doesn't hurt you. Get your money in and get paid off by the button.

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

My first reaction was to go for the checkraise. Donking the flop seems better now, but you have to threebang. Hopefully he caps his AA KK AQ and you can push some people out.

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

Maybe I'm missing something, but the potential spade draws have already called 2 cold. Do I go ahead and re-raise because of my equity (knowing that the button will now likely just call my turn bet), or call flop and lead turn, allowing button to make it 2 BB to other players? (I'm pretty convinced that button has big overpair at this point.)

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

Good points. Let's assume I 3-bang and he caps, Do the spade draws fold when it's two back to them in this pot? (after they've already called 2?)

Re: 5/10 on-line, jam flop or enlist preflop raiser?
 

who cares, lol
we have a set
draws are coming along anyway
mash it up now and make a huge pot so the times we don't get sucked out on, we win lots of monies.
not a good spot for pot control