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Muckit 02-19-2006 07:11 PM

Fold to river donk?
 
Villain is 40/3.5/0.7 over 50 hands.

This is an easy fold to a LPP river donk bet correct?

PokerStars Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

numeri 02-19-2006 07:20 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
Any specific reads? This could definitely be bluffing the flush as well. Many players will check/raise a rivered flush. I'd be very tempted to call, knowing that I'll lose most of the time. I just think we might win the 1 in 8.25 that we need to.

Muckit 02-19-2006 07:53 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
No specific reads. I didn't consider the check/raise point. Given the board is paired and three to the flush I gave more weight to the river donk.

Buzz-cp 02-19-2006 07:55 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
I call and make a note.

numeri 02-19-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
[ QUOTE ]
No specific reads. I didn't consider the check/raise point. Given the board is paired and three to the flush I gave more weight to the river donk.

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Yeah, it's definitely close. I think a T either donks or check/raises the turn. I'm more worried about the K and flush. I don't hate either a fold or a call. It's extremely close either way. The note might be worth a slightly -EV call.

Spy021 02-19-2006 08:12 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
Still very new and learning, but here's my 2 cents...

Looking at your read, it looks like Villian is pretty passive postflop so I wouldn't really expect him the type to try a steal on the river. I would think that even if he had a Ten, he would have checked it on the river when the 3rd heart came down, especially since he didn't raise on the turn. Based on his stats, the only likely hand I could see him bet is a made flush. He called on the flop and turn getting odds to draw to a flush, so I think a fold here is good.

Sushiglutton 02-19-2006 08:21 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
Yes like the fold even against better players. What could he been calling with that u beat?

Buzz-cp 02-19-2006 08:23 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes like the fold even against better players. What could he been betting with that u beat?

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I can see A8, A6, 77-55, busted gutshot, etc.

Sushiglutton 02-19-2006 08:58 PM

Re: Fold to river donk?
 
Ok I give up. Bad post by me. Call against aggro but folding is okej against passive?


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