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Abramovic 05-24-2007 01:54 PM

50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
3bet preflop is obv an option, how do you guys play this?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $65.30
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $50.00</font>
UTG: $19.75
CO: $128.53
BTN: $76.00

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Just joined table, this is my first hand. Villain is 28/10/3 over 150 datamined. 100% Cbet</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.50</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($7.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

<font color="black">River:</font> ($16.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00

Pot Size: $40.25 ($2 Rake)

Keys Myaths 05-24-2007 01:56 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
I fold to the second barrel. Most villains will c-bet, but most will stop after the first try, too.

HandHack1 05-24-2007 02:00 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
why not a raise somewhere (flop/turn) to see where you stand? My feeling here w/ the low pair and the constant bets it is like walking down a dark corridor.

monkeymaps 05-24-2007 02:00 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
c/r flop shut down if called?

I take this line against villians like the one in this hand.

you have invested more than what you would in a flop c/r with the line you took.
Of coarse if villian had air you got more value out of him with c/c line.

I just hate c/c three streets I rarely win monies with these lines. Seems like villian would have shut down some where if you were ahead here.

Grifter 05-24-2007 02:02 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
Assuming you make it to the river, you lost to pocket pairs, AK, KQ (discounted), and Kxd (again, discounted.) You beat AQ and busted draws. I think I find a fold, in that you have no real knowledge that the villian will three barrell bluff here. I don't think it is a really bad call, but I think I fold. I also think you might fold on the turn because I don't think you can count on a free showdown (AF = 3) and there are a lot of scary cards on the river.

Chomp 05-24-2007 02:03 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
I get sucked into pots like this all the time and never know what to do. Hence, I spew a fortune.

I never 3b pf. I just can't see that it's a more EV line than calling. (Metagame notwithstanding of course).

I play it the same except usually pussy out on river. I'm pretty sure it's awful though to call 2 streets and then fold river, so I'm really not sure.

Abramovic 05-24-2007 02:04 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
I didnt feel the need to turn my hand into a bluff on the flop.

There isnt really much in my range that I would check/raise the flop with other than diamond draws, and there arent a great deal of those in my range.

Normally I would fold to 2nd barrel here.

Abramovic 05-24-2007 02:05 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
What do you guys think about calling river after calling 2 streets? I had quite a big think at the time.

hoyasaxa 05-24-2007 02:07 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
[ QUOTE ]
I didnt feel the need to turn my hand into a bluff on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Its not a bluff if you actually have the best hand. Which is what you find out with a flop c/r

wikemang 05-24-2007 02:07 PM

Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD
 
Fold to second barrel as played, although I might c/r the flop


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