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sk5111 05-22-2007 04:44 PM

SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
I was playing around with the quiz feature when I saw this hand:

Blinds: 200/400/25

Stack sizes:
SB: 4888 Call%: 8+
BB: 1790 Call%: 40+
Button: 2982 Call%: 10+
Cut off (you): 3840

You are dealt: Ac 9c and options are Push/Fold.

To me this seemed like an obvious push but the quiz said fold. Is there something I'm missing?

citanul 05-22-2007 04:49 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
if you don't believe it, check it with pen and pencil. not that i'm saying it's right or whatever, since i didn't read it.

k-rag 05-22-2007 04:51 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
The 40% calling range in the BB probably has a lot to do with it.

Ac9c vs 40% pct = 57.290%

work out the ICM, that's probably why.

That said, would you ever put someone on CALLING top 40% on the bubble in this situation?

wiltronic 05-22-2007 05:26 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
You can enter this as a new game to analyze and then you can play around with the ranges to see why or why not. When you enter this one it gives 88+, AJ+ as push range.

Also while in reality BB probably isn't calling top %40, the point of these quiz is to make you think about the hand ranges as they are given and what is your correct response to those specific ranges.

gl-

fluorescenthippo 05-22-2007 05:28 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
it looks right given those ranges from bizzaro land

fluorescenthippo 05-22-2007 05:31 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
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if you don't believe it, check it with pen and pencil. not that i'm saying it's right or whatever, since i didn't read it.

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this would take forever to do with pen and pencil since sngwiz factors in every possible senario if you fold. all 8 of them or whatever. but your point still holds. 95% of sngwiz posts have to do with the poster not knowing how to use the program or understanding ICM

kleath 05-22-2007 05:49 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
I think another REALLY big factor is that you're utg and gotta push through stack that will hurt you + CL and your getting called more than half the time, if you're button I imagine its a push.

checkmate36 05-22-2007 06:01 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
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Also while in reality BB probably isn't calling top %40

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At the smallest of stakes, what would be a good starting point for a tight/avg/loose player?

Maybe a super loose is 40%??

Im trying to put the bizarro world of the wiz into my real life "I have a suited Jack I call all in" type of games I play in. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Maybe a tight BB is looking at 20%?

Guizones 05-22-2007 06:08 PM

Re: SNG Wizard Quiz Help
 
Probably because you are near the bubble and the big BB calling range. I think... not sure.


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