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Live. 3 limps, SB complete and I knuckle Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, I bet because it's fun and it's not too unusual for people to peel with some pair and fold to a turn bet, I have outs, and most importantly, the limpers will have undercards alarmingly often. One call and the SB calls.

Turn is the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB wakes up and bets, I think for a beat and call, call behind me. SB is pretty straightfoward.

River is a K. SB pauses and bets, I raise.

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I like betting too. The SB's turn bet looks and awful lot like "huh, now that there are 2 kings on the board that agresive dude in the BB can possibly have a king and my J is good." I'd be shocked if he folded the river.

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folding ev: 0 BB
raising ev: .65 BB
calling and winning with Q high: priceless

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Yea, I mean, this is the deal yo. If he is bluffing a busted spade draw he dont call the raise. What hands are you trying to fold out?

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Aren't you supposed to use the Zeebo Theorem (although it mainly applies to NL, but w/e) to increase EV?

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I hate this. Straightforward SB isn't betting out on the turn into 2 opponents with a spade draw...he wouldn't want the hero to raise and completely mess up the odds to his (theoretical) flush. If it was HU on the turn, then I like the river raise much more...

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if he folds its because he flopped a straight

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Aren't you supposed to use the Zeebo Theorem (although it mainly applies to NL, but w/e) to increase EV?

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What's the Zeebo Theorem?

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What's the Zeebo Theorem?

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Could be wrong, but believe it's no one ever folds a full house. Big payoffs in NL.