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mrface 05-19-2007 04:02 AM

600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
Very first hand that I sat down, so no reads/stats on villain. That probably makes this play horrible, but I think it might be okay against the average 600nl player who is at least doing some higher level thinking. Maybe the bigger problem is I am unknown to him, so he might not be able to lay down trip aces to an unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($600)
UTG ($643)
MP ($136.10)
Button ($213.30)
SB ($640.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB calls $18.

Flop: ($48) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, SB calls $38.

Turn: ($124) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $105</font>, SB calls $105.

River: ($334) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $433 (All-In)</font>

DJ Sensei 05-19-2007 04:10 AM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
doesnt usually work so well for me.

also, this 2-barrel usually works best when
1) theres some other overcard scare cards that you might be able to use on the river. On an A high board this isnt the case.
2) you hit your draw on the river. I mean, if he's got an ace he'll pay off anyhow so why turn this into a stack-spew?

Fonkey123 05-19-2007 04:21 AM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
I doubt he check/calls 2 streets with an A to check/fold a river A. I would bet like 200 on river just to fold out a flush draw, since I don't think the extra 233 bet accomplishes anything. Also the fact it's your first hand at the table probably makes this pretty big spew.

Reef 05-19-2007 04:28 AM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
who is villian

and ya, just first glance dont like it

DJ Sensei 05-19-2007 05:08 AM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
[ QUOTE ]
I doubt he check/calls 2 streets with an A to check/fold a river A. I would bet like 200 on river just to fold out a flush draw, since I don't think the extra 233 bet accomplishes anything. Also the fact it's your first hand at the table probably makes this pretty big spew.

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as for your bet size idea, in many situations where they'll call anything with the best hand and fold anything with a busted draw, smaller bluffs are better. here, i think a shove has a better chance of folding out an ace than a "value bet". its just a matter of whether the price is right for a bluff at all. it obviously also depends a lot on the level that he's on. some opponents i'd shovebluff here, some i'd valuebetbluff.

deaders 05-19-2007 05:10 AM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
[ QUOTE ]
I doubt he check/calls 2 streets with an A to check/fold a river A. I would bet like 200 on river just to fold out a flush draw, since I don't think the extra 233 bet accomplishes anything. Also the fact it's your first hand at the table probably makes this pretty big spew.

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agreed, if he got there with an ace I dont see why he would fold now. If anything your river shove looks like you missed your fd and gets you looked up more lightly. Especially as its your first hand at the table Id take the card on the turn rather than two barreling an unknown.

SimonAllan 05-19-2007 12:59 PM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
I think this is bad because this is the same line I take with a boat here if I want to get paid. Seems like spew against an unknown.

RiverHebrew2 05-19-2007 01:24 PM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
Good play- no way ANYONE EVER folds trips here making it this far, especially since hearts missed. Perf line imo

RiverHebrew2 05-19-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
obviously my first post wuz sarcastic lol- this is unreal spew; btw villain doesnt no u play full house like this, and besides, he's not folding trips on the river even if you DO play a bot like this jus becuz he called down this far and pretty much hit his gin card and all the draws missed

Terrabon98 05-19-2007 01:27 PM

Re: 600NL I know he has trips, so I push
 
This line never seems to work with me, especially in a blidn battle. I also don't like the fact that he is completely unknown and you are trying this.


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