mining the new party
 

I made a dataminer that works with the new Party software. If I released this program, I'm pretty sure it would be banned by Party Poker immediately. I am considering buying some extra computers, leaving them mining constantly, and distributing the mined hands. I am posting this to gauge the general interest in such a service.

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What kind of cost would you impose on people?

Also, would your program be able to give data that includes mucked hands by losing players?

A little more detail would help on how it works, but I would be willing to pay for hands of certain limits gladly.

-eric

Re: mining the new party
 

One post? To gain credability here you will have to release the program to the first 1k posters in this thread.

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Yeah, I don't think so.

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This sounds like PokerEdge's setup.

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i think that there is a huge demand for datamining at party; however, i am not sure you will be satisfying this demand by offering to sell dbs.

first of all, there was previously a db selling outfit run by a well known 2plus2 poster. it did not sound like it was particularly profitable and closed shop a couple of months ago. of course, this was before the new client came to fruition. in the past, people were not willing to pay enough per month to make it worthwhile. perhaps that has changed? perhaps not (you might consider posting in the mid/high forum as this is most likely firmly into your target market).

you should also seriously consider selling the program. instead of a general public release you might instead employ an email/private message/word of mouth type of approach to avoid banning (as i agree any public release will be noticed immediately by party).

i am aware of at least one and possibly two other programmers who are working on solutions to the "party problem" (i would reasonably estimate there to be at least a half dozen more out there). as soon as one of these comes to market (hopefully in a stealthy underground fashion) your db selling days are over.

personally, i would not likely buy data simply because i play lower limits and it is not worth it for me. whereas, i woould definately buy a solid/efficient datamining program without much reservation.

cheers,
sean

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What kind of cost would you impose on people?

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I don't want to abuse the nature of the forum further, and actually talk about selling something. And I haven't given it much thought.

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Also, would your program be able to give data that includes mucked hands by losing players?

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no.

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This sounds like PokerEdge's setup.

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Kind of. Except without the proprietary software and blackmailing.

Re: mining the new party
 

Hi guys,
I made a post 2 days ago named "Party Datamine - Legal issue". I was wondering what would happen with a program that would be able to datamine at the new party software.
I agree with hhsmithey, the problem is that this program will be banned immediatly.

I'm a developper myself so i believe hhsmithey when he says he made this program, because the truth is it's pretty simple to do:
1. Capture the dealer text
2. analyse the hand
3. rewrite the hand with the format previously used by party
4. give this rewritten hand to Poker Tracker
5. 1 hand added!
Of course, the problem is that you are not able to get the hands of the player. However you're still able to track the betting tendencies ( V$PI, PFR ) and betting pattern preflop and postflop.

Well, hhsmithey, when i think of it, maybe i'll write such a software and launch my own service! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
The truth is i'm not sure it's worth it...