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swede554 05-17-2007 07:32 PM

Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
Stars $10 rebuy 35k grnt. 200 left, top 180 get paid.

Villain is a pretty strong aggressive player, he just dobled AK>JJ. I've been pretty active, and raised his BB as well one orbit ago which he folded. We're both in top 15 chips.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t24616)
Hero (t81779)
CO (t75372)
Button (t19860)
SB (t23637)
BB (t116800)
UTG (t53508)
UTG+1 (t48572)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t2800.

Flop: (t10200) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t11200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

La Brujita 05-17-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
i just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

Proofrock 05-17-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
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i just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

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I'm not crazy about shoving t80k here, but I do want to get it in on this flop. I'd put in a raise to something like t28k. If he shoves I call. If he calls and checks the turn I either shove or take the free-card. Perhaps this is spewy, though.

I think an argument can be made for just calling as well.

APipeDream 05-17-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
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just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

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I don't think moving it in is really necessary here at all. Making it 27000 and folding to a shove or just calling here is much better IMO.

swede554 05-17-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
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Making it 27000 and folding to a shove

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This would be really bad btw.

jaroot 05-17-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
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This would be really bad btw.

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La Brujita 05-17-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
the thing about moving it in is you have some fe against hands that are beating you, and you avoid the problem where if you raise he calls and pushes a blank turn.

calling flop is the other best option to moving in, i think. i think calling might be ok, if there is a chance he checks turn and you can either check behind or try to semibluff.

perhaps calling is better here, im really not sure.

i'm trying to figure out if making a small raise has the benefits of moving him off a hand if he flat calls and you push turn. i'm not sure. that would be the reason to raise, because you are calling any push if you raise the flop.

jaroot 05-17-2007 10:47 PM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
can make a case for cc or jam here

I'd lean towards calling and going from there.

registrar 05-18-2007 07:06 AM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
The problem with moving in is that I don't think a jack folds ever on that board. However, the draws fold, which is quite nice. I tend to think that these overbets are not draws but strong but vulnerable made hands so I'd call.

gravycakes 05-18-2007 08:49 AM

Re: Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy
 
The problem with this hand is he`s probably got AJ KJ or QJ...taking your outs for a straight or if you hit a bigger pair he might have 2 pair. I like a call here though. Just be careful you`re on the bubble.


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