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22233 05-16-2007 07:41 PM

What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
I know that "it's poker", but the following hand has me a little miffed. I am in Seat 1 with a short stack and the blinds are starting to hurt.

Seat 1: 22233 (1345 in chips)
Seat 2: big democrat (12232 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 3: Ajames86 (5340 in chips)
Seat 4: lazerboy25 (1080 in chips)
Seat 5: lordTasse (10743 in chips)
Seat 6: deputat (2535 in chips)
Seat 7: rvrbelle (3320 in chips)
Seat 8: Dave_W_#13 (2015 in chips)
Seat 9: 42SOLID (5745 in chips)
Ajames86: posts small blind 75
lazerboy25: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 22233 [Qd Qc]
lordTasse: folds
deputat: folds
rvrbelle: folds
Dave_W_#13: folds
42SOLID: folds
22233: raises 450 to 600
Ajames86: folds
lazerboy25: raises 450 to 1050
22233: raises 295 to 1345 and is all-in
lazerboy25: calls 30 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Jh Js Jc]
*** TURN *** [Jh Js Jc] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Jh Js Jc 3d] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lazerboy25: shows [Jd Qh] (four of a kind, Jacks)
22233: shows [Qd Qc] (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)
lazerboy25 collected 2235 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2235 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Js Jc 3d 5d]
Seat 1: 22233 (button) showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 3: Ajames86 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: lazerboy25 (big blind) showed [Jd Qh] and won (2235) with four of a kind, Jacks
Seat 5: lordTasse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: deputat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: rvrbelle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dave_W_#13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 42SOLID folded before Flop (didn't bet)

What are the odds of a PP losing to quads made from 3 of a kind on the flop??

George just lucky, I guess.

rakemeplz 05-16-2007 07:44 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
-What are the odds of a PP losing to quads made from 3 of a kind on the flop??

-George just lucky, I guess.


Actually he was unlucky he got 4 jacks, and he only needed 3.

22233 05-16-2007 07:47 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
[ QUOTE ]
-What are the odds of a PP losing to quads made from 3 of a kind on the flop??

-George just lucky, I guess.


Actually he was unlucky he got 4 jacks, and he only needed 3.

[/ QUOTE ]"George" is me. Lucky because there is less chance of losing than winning, especially that badly.

backspin2 05-16-2007 08:03 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
Please get familiar with the forums on 2+2, there is one called BBV which is where this thread belongs.

22233 05-16-2007 08:39 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
Just posted there. Wow that forum is vicious.

captain2man 05-16-2007 09:15 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just posted there. Wow that forum is vicious.

[/ QUOTE ]

and that, in & of itself should be a bit of a lesson for you....even if the probability of something happening is less than 1% - it's still not really all that uncommon in the long run. It's hard to impress (unless maybe you lose your house over it).

22233 05-16-2007 09:48 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
So you more experienced players - why does it feel like I keep losing hands where I'm favourite?

Apparently by making bets with +EV, I should be doing better in the long run. But it seems I've had a long streak of losing hands where I'm favourite - apparently this might turn one day. True?

SuperWhale 05-16-2007 10:35 PM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
Bad beats stick in your mind a lot more than when you win as a favorite. Get your money in when you are ahead and in the long run you will be fine.

karlwig 05-17-2007 04:54 AM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
you were 90 to 10 favourite, or to be more accorate 88,5% to 11.5%... so it's definately a bad beat, but it's not SICK.

DWarrior 05-17-2007 05:58 AM

Re: What are the odds of THIS PokerStars suckout??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just posted there. Wow that forum is vicious.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's because donkament beats and pots under 1k are not worth mentioning.


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