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panzerocks4 05-01-2007 04:33 PM

25 50 live 9 handed
 
table was nine handed.
the table consists of abc players and a couple total lag donks. i have not seen any of the abc players show bluffs so i dont know if their cabable of making a play i have everyone covered with about 20000 in front of me. the average is about 10000. ok heres the hand.

folds around the table to me in the cutoff where i look down at 7d 6d i decide to raise to 150. small blind calls big blind re raises to 500. i call and small blind thinks and finally decides to call. i put the big blind on aces or kings and the small blind on ace q pocket 9s that range.

flop: 7h 6h 7c

small blind checks and big blind fires out 800 i think for a second and calls. small blind insta folds and says i knew my king queen wasn't good preflop.

the turn comes the 2d. the big blind thinks for a minute and bets 1000 i think for awhile and finally call.

the river comes the Ad. the big blind has about 7700 left. he fires out 2000 on the river. i raise to 4000 and he insta pushes i think for awhile and finally fold face up.

i'd like oppions on all fazes of the hand. and please knowone right "oh your a total donk easy call." thank you

Wayneo 05-01-2007 04:39 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
You didn't say whether the big blind was ABC or a donk?

DeMaci 05-01-2007 04:46 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
How much more is it on the end? $4000? Raising seems bad if youre not ready to call $4000 more.

I play this hand a lot faster, depending on his view of you and how likely you are to have a 7, I definitly raise the flop here, as most ABC players with AA or KK will just look to get all the money in on the turn.

AwwInBaby 05-01-2007 04:51 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
As played, must call.

Why raise to 4000 if youre not prepared to call 3700 more?

Also raising on the flop or the turn is a better idea, specially if he does have AA or KK.

aidivn 05-01-2007 04:53 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
How is it that you put your villan on AA or KK and then raise the river?

PhatPots 05-01-2007 04:59 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
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How is it that you put your villan on AA or KK and then raise the river?

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Thats what I am wondering

I think you should have raised the turn after he fires another bet.

Phatsac 05-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
you mean you had $20.00 in front and covered everyone else's $10.00?

greg nice 05-01-2007 05:32 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
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How is it that you put your villan on AA or KK and then raise the river?

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heres the reason

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the table consists of abc players and a couple total lag donks

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dlpnyc21 05-01-2007 05:55 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
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How is it that you put your villan on AA or KK and then raise the river?

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Thats what I am wondering

I think you should have raised the turn after he fires another bet.

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i raise the flop a lot here. if i just called the flop, i raise the turn. as played, you are getting paid off by one hand on the river, AK. AA/KK either push or fold, respectively. I don't know how much value there is in raising, however, if you think AK will call then it's a raise/fold to shove.

I have no problem folding for my last 4k here like you did, but I probably wouldn't have laid myself such a good price on the river, so I make it like 2-2.5x of his river bet.

Sick spot, but he has AA like 99% of the time here, so I don't mind a fold. If his range is as tight as you say though, raise the flop or turn he will still pay.

Bakes 05-01-2007 06:30 PM

Re: 25 50 live 9 handed
 
he fires 1k into 3k on the turn with 10k to play with and u just call? gross


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