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mojobluesman 04-30-2007 05:12 PM

Facing a Turn Raise
 
I don't want to elaborate too much on my thinking other than I was having a tough time coming up with hands he could have given that he called the flop bet after a pre-flop cap and then raised the turn.

I didn't have a good read on what kind of hands he might raise the turn with. But I hadn't seen him bluff or semi-bluff at all.

Am I supposed to call the turn raise here?

What am I suypposed to do when I spike the 3rd king on the river?

Ultimate Bet
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25./$0.5
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 3-bets</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero caps</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11.8SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.9BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.9BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12.9BB

BigBadBabar 04-30-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
i c/r the riv

nh

Buzz-cp 04-30-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
I am probably calling the 3bet preflop and checkraising a safe flop.

Post-flop is pretty standard. There are enough AK hands that are raising the turn to merit calling down. The river card really does not change our hand much, unless you are interested in folding to a 3-bet when you checkraise. Without reads, I play postflop the same way.

Buzz-cp 04-30-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
[ QUOTE ]
i c/r the riv

nh

[/ QUOTE ]

can you fold to a 3bet? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

mojobluesman 04-30-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
[ QUOTE ]
i c/r the riv

nh

[/ QUOTE ]

I more or less thought he had JJ or the same hand as me.

Riku 04-30-2007 05:34 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
I play it the same.

Ricks 04-30-2007 05:42 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
I think that you played it fine. I would not fold the turn with TPTK getting almost 11:2 to show down. It is very possible that he has another AK (6 combos). AA, JJ have 6 combos and you beat the 3 ace combos on the river.

I am not sure about raising the river. If you raise the river you should not fold to a 3-bet because it is likely that AK will play this way. We only make, at most, 1BB if he has AA (3 combos) but will lose 2BB if he has JJ (3 combos).

BigBadBabar 04-30-2007 06:49 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
yea i am less sure about that than i was when i first posted.

aK13 04-30-2007 07:32 PM

Re: Facing a Turn Raise
 
nice hand.


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