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Millman123 04-28-2007 04:43 AM

Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
This is hand from yesterdays 33$ deepstack tournament. I would like to hear your comments about the hand, specially turn and would you call, fold or re-raise all-in the PimpPyo´s river bet?

Some information about hand:

PimpPyo´s turncall was instacall.
No special reads about the player
Pay-out structure:

1st 1.6k$
2nd 1k$
3rd 620$
4th 430$
5th 350$

Here is link to the hand. If you dont want to know my river-decision and results just read HH below.

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/...p;handid=58405


PokerStars Game #9631275568: Tournament #48311451, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2007/04/27 - 10:14:12 (ET)
Table '48311451 5' 9-max Seat #3 is the button

Seat 3: pragmatic (53841 in chips)
Seat 5: Telma123 (139696 in chips)
Seat 6: PimpPyo99 (230080 in chips)
Seat 8: GodLike3 (161542 in chips)
Seat 9: nofingclue11 (314841 in chips)
pragmatic: posts the ante 200
Telma123: posts the ante 200
PimpPyo99: posts the ante 200
GodLike3: posts the ante 200
nofingclue11: posts the ante 200
Telma123: posts small blind 2000
PimpPyo99: posts big blind 4000

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Telma123 [5d 5h]
GodLike3: raises 8000 to 12000
nofingclue11: folds
pragmatic: folds
Telma123: calls 10000
PimpPyo99: calls 8000

Potsize 37k

*** FLOP *** [Ah 9h 7c]
Telma123: checks
PimpPyo99: checks
GodLike3: checks

Potsize 37k

*** TURN *** [Ah 9h 7c] [5c]
Telma123: bets 20000
PimpPyo99: calls 20000
GodLike3: folds

Potsize: 77k


*** RIVER *** [Ah 9h 7c 5c] [4h]
Telma123: checks
PimpPyo99: bets 54000
Telma123: ??? (107k left in stack)


-Millman

ZJ123 04-28-2007 04:46 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
meh, call.

Millman123 04-28-2007 04:54 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
What hand you put him?

-Millman

ZJ123 04-28-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
[ QUOTE ]
What hand you put him?

-Millman

[/ QUOTE ]

Well basically u beat everything except a flush.

I think he valuebets 2 pair here, meh its close, he has a flush a lot.

IDK, i hate folding sets and im a calling station, so i look him up

ZJ123 04-28-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
yeah i no thats terrible advice.

Masterplan 04-28-2007 06:23 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
personally thats a fold for me, 100k left with only 32k invested. better to pick another spot vs such a probable draw hit.

Proofrock 04-28-2007 07:03 AM

Re: Tough Finaltable hand. Comments needed.
 
Tough spot. Although he has a flush a lot, you beat pretty much every other hand he could hold, and by checking the river you broadcast that you don't have a flush. He only needs to not have a flush about 1/3 for a call to be profitable.

I call here since 2/3 PSB on the river is a pretty big value bet when it's clear you don't have a flush so I expect his bluffing frequency to be higher than it would with a 1/2 pot sized bet. Also, winning drastically improves your chip position, and although losing hurts bad, you still have 13BB and 30 minute levels so you're not crippled.

I don't like that you say "no special reads about the player," though -- 5-handed at the FT of a deepstack tournament you really should have some kind of read.


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