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The.Accountant 04-16-2007 08:29 AM

KJ no good?
 
46/21/1 (100)...is this just a cooler?

(the button was sitting out this hand, btw, so I had position)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $337.85
UTG+1: $479.20
Hero: $439.20
Button: $0
SB: $17.70
BB: $253.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($35, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $26</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($113, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $88</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $176</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $406.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG calls all-in $128.85</font>.
Uncalled bets: $101.35 returned to Hero.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($824.05, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $722.7, Sidepot 1: $101.35)


Results:
Final pot: $824.05

kolotoure 04-16-2007 08:31 AM

Re: FUCCCCCCCCCK
 
Bypassing profanity filter is naughty

The.Accountant 04-16-2007 08:46 AM

Re: FUCCCCCCCCCK
 
K, whats up with the title of your post?

Anyway, is there nothing I can do to play this better?

Abramovic 04-16-2007 08:54 AM

Re: FUCCCCCCCCCK
 
Fold preflop is best. As played I probably dont get away from it.

Fonkey123 04-16-2007 09:01 AM

Re: FUCCCCCCCCCK
 
Fold preflop. Flop call, might be a little spewy. If I get to the turn I'm going broke though.

Geir74 04-16-2007 09:02 AM

Re: KJ no good?
 
i usually fold this pf.

raise flopp, fold to a reraise.
when he checkraises you on the turn, you kan put him on AJ or QJ. His aggression is low. Draws or overpairs are not likely.
raising QJ utg is probably within his range. It's diffucult to get away from your hand.

Abramovic 04-16-2007 09:05 AM

Re: KJ no good?
 
Problem with raising flop and folding to push is draws are going to push aswell as sets/AJ. I think calling flop is OK here, but fold preflop is so obviously best.

Captain Awesome 04-16-2007 09:24 AM

Re: KJ no good?
 
Fold preflop. I'm also going broke on the turn.

Raising the flop I dislike

Geir74 04-16-2007 09:26 AM

Re: KJ no good?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Problem with raising flop and folding to push is draws are going to push aswell as sets/AJ. I think calling flop is OK here, but fold preflop is so obviously best.

[/ QUOTE ]

If BB or SB (smallstacks) are pushing, I am calling if UTG lays down.
But preflop raiser UTG just lead flop into 3 people. His stats are passive. I don't think he would lead out with AsQs or AsTs. But if so, we are not loosing much value by folding to AsQs.
If UTG has KJ or QJ, he will not push back when raised on the flop in a multiway pot.

We raise to protect our TP from both SB and BB, and gain information from (the passive) UTG. There are no OESD combos we can put UTG on. Ks and Js are dead, so the FD combos is limited.

I still like a raise on the flop.


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