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BrassMonkey 04-15-2007 08:27 AM

Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
UTG plays tons of hands and acts kind of like a maniac. Button is a retard who plays pretty much every hand, usually limping in. BB plays a lot of BB for a raise. My AJo almost certainly has a pot equity edge here.

Flop sucks, but I pretty much have to bet. Hate so many callers. Turn card is awful, so what do I do? Bet/fold? Check and see what happens, giving myself the option to fold?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ?

skiier04 04-15-2007 09:53 AM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
Bet/Fold is best here I think.... there is still a decent chance you are ahead, especially against a couple of loose players.

Oink 04-15-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
Bet and reevaluate the action.

No one raised or 3-bet preflop so AK is not an issue. The board is drawy so plenty of worse hands will call. If it gets raised and its 1 bet bet back to you HU or maybe even 3-way you should consider calling with your gutshot and (tainted) trips/aces up outs.

TheWunderkind 04-15-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
yeah bet and if it gets raised make your dec based on the odds youre getting

mvoss 04-15-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
Bet, do not give a free card here.

If it gets raised you have odds to call imo. If it's 3bet you probably have to fold.

Carmine 04-15-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
In a case where BB is always calling PF and UTG is ofetn betting postflop I will just complete in the SB and plan on C/R many a flop. Even better if button is the aggressive one.

marching_on_together 04-15-2007 04:01 PM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
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Bet, do not give a free card here.

If it gets raised you have odds to call imo. If it's 3bet you probably have to fold.

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i don't think there is much chance of a free card here if hero checks with three to act.

jt1 04-15-2007 04:27 PM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
check to raise if button bets (or UTG bets and button folds) may not be a bad play

badmeaningbad 04-15-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
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Bet and reevaluate the action.

No one raised or 3-bet preflop so AK is not an issue. The board is drawy so plenty of worse hands will call. If it gets raised and its 1 bet bet back to you HU or maybe even 3-way you should consider calling with your gutshot and (tainted) trips/aces up outs.

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Lets say hero bets, bb calls, and utg raises, bt folds, hero calls, bb calls...

I'm assuming regardless of what falls on river we are check-calling if it's one bet to us right?

johnnyrocket 04-15-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Drawy board out of position, turn is gross - what to do?
 
yea, bet and call/fold depending on your odds when it gets back to you.


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