180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

Nearly busto, 56 bucks, figure im almost bankrolled for the 4+.40 180 man sit and gos (yes I realize im like 20% br'ed, but i refuse to play lower) and that in shaundeeb fashion I am going to get myself robusto from these things. Down to 4 players 1500/3000 I pick up A10 with like 38k, I raise to 12000, guy pushes, I call he has 66 I lose a flip-- is a call ike that pretty standard 4 handed? Then this final hand too lazy for converter deal with it thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

o Venom007 [Qc Qh]
NAIRBRANLOM: folds
supermankid: folds
cmrjlb: calls 1500
Venom007: raises 3000 to 6000
cmrjlb: calls 3000
*** FLOP *** [6h Kc 8d]
cmrjlb: checks
Venom007: checks
*** TURN *** [6h Kc 8d] [Ks]
cmrjlb: bets 9000
Venom007: calls 9000
*** RIVER *** [6h Kc 8d Ks] [Th]
cmrjlb: bets 18000
Venom007: calls 13676 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cmrjlb: shows [7s 9c] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Venom007: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, K

1. Do you hate HATE the min raise preflop?
2. Do you hate the flop check? I didnt figure he had K and wanted him to bluff off his chips on the turn
3. Should I have pushed the turn? Even if I do he still calls though so that cant be a HUGE mistake
4. Ever fold river?

No reads or anything....nobody playing too out of line, I dunno, just upset-- did I play the QQ THAT poorly?

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

1. yes
2. id c-bet. not likely to have a K if they limp pre
3. not sure
4. not after puting half my stack in

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

[ QUOTE ]
1. yes
2. id c-bet. not likely to have a K if they limp pre
3. not sure
4. not after puting half my stack in

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Ehhhhh you really hate the min raise that much? If I raise 9k hes certainly folding....he might even fold if I raise 6k...i just wanted to make the pot a little bigger, hope he hits a piece on the flop and bets and the i could push-- that was the thinking behind the min raise...I guess it bad, but if I raise to 12k or 9k he folds almost for sure

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

Reads?

How much do you have to start the hand? I figured it to be something like 28K? How much do the other players have?

Of course this would have been easily answered if this, [ QUOTE ]
Then this final hand too lazy for converter deal with it thanks

[/ QUOTE ] wasn't done.

Given that you are too lazy to do so, I now feel like I shouldn't even respond. But I've already started.

First of all, you could just shove PF. You have around 10BBs.

The min-raise is just disgusting. You gave him great odds to call PF with just about anything. Saying stuff like, "If I would have raised more, he would have folded" is just dumb. You get the action your going to get. Just make a real raise that doesn't price him in.

Flop check is okay, but if I raised PF I would be shoving any flop w/your stack size. His turn lead probably means he doesn't have a K, so I would shove there too.

The only thing your min-raise PF did was give you an awkward stack to play post-flop. Either shove PF or make a real raise PF with the plan to get it in on any flop.

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

3 handed with less than 10 bb you have one move that is all-in. Having not done that you should have jammed it all-in on the flop you are not betting to fold in this position not if you want to win this thing.

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

1. whatever floats your boat- it did accomplish what you wanted

2. thats fine

3. yeah push here 100% in this instance if he misses the river he's not putting another chip in

4. you cant fold the river this will be a worse hand a lot

Re: 180 man 4+.40 on stars.....final 4
 

The issue I have is you did not follow thru with your "plan of min raise then push when he bets" He bet the turn and you just called??