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betgo 04-13-2007 12:45 AM

short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t9528)
Hero (t7960)
SB (t3240)
BB (t5190)
UTG (t8075)
UTG+1 (t5330)
MP1 (t380)
MP2 (t6730)
MP3 (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t380</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ???

JesseB_11 04-13-2007 01:29 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
Raise to t1200, fold to a reraise.

JCool 04-13-2007 01:50 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
Raising to 800 is sufficient. You are going to raise with A/T on the button if its open folded to you anyway, so what's complicated about this hand?

betgo 04-13-2007 02:33 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
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Raising to 800 is sufficient. You are going to raise with A/T on the button if its open folded to you anyway, so what's complicated about this hand?

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It is a different situation, as I have a smaller equity, since I cannot steal the blinds. Also, if I flat call, the blinds may fold or flat call. It seems like folding is worth considering here, as well as flat calling.

shaundeeb 04-13-2007 02:35 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
I make it 600 here with like any 2

betgo 04-13-2007 02:46 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
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I make it 600 here with like any 2

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Huh? The short stack made it 2xBB and you raise to 3xBB to isolate with any 2? Some hands are not ahead out pot odds versus short stack's range. Plus if you reraise you can be pushed off it by another raise or flat called by a better hand.

kniper 04-13-2007 03:39 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
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Raising to 800 is sufficient. You are going to raise with A/T on the button if its open folded to you anyway, so what's complicated about this hand?

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betgo 04-13-2007 03:52 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
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Raising to 800 is sufficient. You are going to raise with A/T on the button if its open folded to you anyway, so what's complicated about this hand?

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Because picking up the blinds is worth about 400 chips, but isolating is worth about an expectation of a 200 chip gain. I don't understand my you don't see the difference.

Bakes 04-13-2007 04:12 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
someones math is screwy here

dedor 04-13-2007 04:36 AM

Re: short stack push for 2xBB, ATo on button
 
raise to isolate. but not to much if the bb or the sb wake up with a monster.
I'd say 1200 is enough


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