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JayTee 04-11-2007 09:19 PM

3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
Am I supposed to fold this and wait and see if CO busts in the BB? I tinkered with calling ranges and it says this is never a push. I don't understand.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1800)
Hero (t810)
SB (t2710)
BB (t9680)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t785 (All-in)</font>

Kevin8423 04-11-2007 09:40 PM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
I push this 100%.

futuredoc85 04-11-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
umm u put something in wrong when running this through sngwhiz

JayTee 04-11-2007 09:47 PM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
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umm u put something in wrong when running this through sngwhiz

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straight from the HH

Kevin8423 04-11-2007 09:49 PM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
You said you adjusted ranges but clearly something is wrong. This is never anything but a push.

SitNGo Wizard 04-12-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
The Wizard says this is a push if I put SB and BB's calling range on 50% or less. Are you using the latest release?

holdem17 04-12-2007 04:04 AM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
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The Wizard says this is a push if I put SB and BB's calling range on 50% or less. Are you using the latest release?

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BB calls 100% here doesnt he?

SitNGo Wizard 04-12-2007 10:03 AM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
Yes, he is. I was just pointing out to OP that if the opponent calling ranges are tight enough, a push is +$EV. I think this is a case where pushing is -$EV, but future hands are likely to be more -$EV.

This is the biggest limitation of ICM. It only considers the current hand. I am currently working on an enhancement that will effectively remove this limitation.

MaLiik 04-12-2007 10:05 AM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
Do you need any kind of application to tell you that this is a push?

NU Star 04-12-2007 10:06 AM

Re: 3.40: Super short on the bubble - SNGWIZ says fold??
 
All 3.40 ?s should be addressed to wickss.


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