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Cezar 04-11-2007 09:18 PM

Can I fold this ?
 
I'm not sure about the villain's raising range, seems a little wider then just AAxx. When it is AA, he is incapable of folding postflop.

The turn made me sick to my stomach, but I already have half my stack in. Can I find a fold here ?


PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($23.75)
MP (Villain) ($24)
CO ($1.60)
Button ($6.45)
SB ($4)
BB ($19.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP (Villain) raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $2</font>, SB calls $2, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.85</font>, Villain calls $8.85, SB folds.

Turn: ($26.70) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12.15 (All-In)</font>, Villain calls $12.15.

River: ($51) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $51

PokerGolfFiend 04-11-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
fold what, your the one doing the pushing.

Cezar 04-11-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
Yeah, I should've truncated the hand history.
My question still stands, how about check-fold for option number 2 ? (that you now know I didn't take)

Terrabon98 04-11-2007 10:33 PM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
no esp. not since you have one of the aces

CHAx 04-11-2007 11:39 PM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
Skill in omaha is based off of what play you make on the turn. How come you dont see k10 within his range? The way I see it, you are crushed by every possible holding here so why are we re raising all in?

Cezar 04-12-2007 12:48 AM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Skill in omaha is based off of what play you make on the turn. How come you dont see k10 within his range? The way I see it, you are crushed by every possible holding here so why are we re raising all in?

[/ QUOTE ]

actually, K10 doesn't bother me too much. If I didn't have the ace, I would've had a slim call for the last $12.5 in a $51 pot. Since I'm holding one of my own boat outs, its a marginal fold, but only if I'm 100% certain I'm behind.

The way I see it, the only decision is to play the hand, or not. Check-calling here doesn't make sense. I might induce an occasional bluff, but is it worth risk giving a free card to something like 89T or AKQJ ? If I play, its betting out first. No free card, plus he could always have a brain fart and misread his hand, or misclick [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

JackInDaCrak 04-12-2007 12:58 AM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
wtf is everyone in this thread talking about?

Pot flop. Pot turn or check/call raise 12.5 raise in $51 pot every time.

the only place you can find a fold is if this guy was deep in any way.

testaaja 04-12-2007 04:11 AM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Skill in omaha is based off of what play you make on the turn. How come you dont see k10 within his range? The way I see it, you are crushed by every possible holding here so why are we re raising all in?

[/ QUOTE ]
WTF?
Aww in.

Elrazor 04-12-2007 06:02 AM

Re: Can I fold this ?
 
this is another hand im not crazy about calling pre flop - if the Ace were suited i play, but as so often happens when you flop a set with jacks or especially 10's 1)the board is draw heavy and 2) there are possible oversets

Post flop i think you see this hand through - if he has hit the case ace good luck to him, and if he has a straight you pretty much have the odds to call him down and fill up

i like to call in this situation as i like to know what hes got, and also if i fill up and hes a bad player i might get him on tilt [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]


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