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willw9 04-06-2007 12:47 AM

100NL - Torn with JJ
 
Villain is 33/9/.68 over 90 hands. He is fairly new to the table, but probably views me as a lagtag if he's paying attention.

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.50/$1 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $107.60
BB: $100
UTG: $101
MP: $143.95
<u>Hero (CO): $107.80</u>
<u>BTN: $89.40</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.50, 6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN calls $6

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($22, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $79.90</font>, Hero?

jfreels 04-06-2007 01:37 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
$8 on flop
c/c turn

beachbum 04-06-2007 01:50 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
Without a specific read, I'd make a note and probably fold here. It'd be nice to know with what range he cold calls a CO openraise or floats the flop, and how he usually reacts to a second barrel. Does he really have TT, A9, or a flush draw often enough here?

And I hate c/c turn.

Colours 04-06-2007 01:55 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
Play it the same and folding to the turn raise.

PwnSauce 04-06-2007 02:55 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
I believe this is pretty read dependent because I've seen a ton of people do this with draws to get FE. I might call if I think he'd do this, but if he's fairly conventional postflop I may fold it. We all know the 2 didn't change anything because I doubt he has that 2, so if you think he's a tricky slowplay type guy then maybe fold, but if he bluffs call.

DirteAA 04-06-2007 03:43 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
AF-0.68 I actually wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 here. I had a guy chase btm on me in a pot tonight and lead for like 1/8 pot on the river when he hit his kicker.

If he were more aggro then I may call but he seems to be too passive. I'd fold.

Will221 04-06-2007 03:47 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
the way it's played I think it's a fold since hes so passive postflop, FWIW I also like a turn c/c and if he check behind turn I value bet river

willw9 04-06-2007 11:02 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
Remember, AF takes way longer to converge than VPIP and PFR. The sample is pretty small, so while the V/P may be accurate, AF probably isn't.

I guess to make this call, we need to know that draws are in his range. Since he is an unknown, and I have no reason (yet) to believe that he is capable of doing this with a draw, I guess a fold is best.

If draws aren't in his range, what do you think his range is?

And yea, C/C turn obv sucks.

Whiterby 04-06-2007 11:34 AM

Re: 100NL - Torn with JJ
 
Bet more on the flop.With your almost 1/2pot bet on the flop he could 2 here. Fold turn.


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