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Bond18 03-23-2007 11:40 PM

I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
17k guarantee. Early.
Stacks:
Me: 2300
Raiser: 2400
Caller: 3100

I hold J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on button
Blinds 15/30, i've been tightish.


Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, folds to MP2, MP2 calls, hijack calls, CO raises to 165, hero calls, folds back to hijack, hijack calls.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 570)
Hijack checks, CO breifly pauses then bets pot of 570, hero?

mlagoo 03-23-2007 11:43 PM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
i prolly call and fold to turn barrel or something like that

edit: all i really know is that raising is bad. and folding might be mad. but turn play is a bit confusing if villian is capable of two barrelling but i usually just give him credit on second barrel.

2nd edit: im also a bit intoxicated so take this all with a grain of salt.

aurelien 03-25-2007 06:09 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
Agree, I will call to see what he does on the turn. i would probably give up if he bet out again.

registrar 03-25-2007 06:12 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
Tank and call. Probably go broke with this stack but it depends what he bets.

Fiksdal 03-25-2007 06:22 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
Any reason you didn't 3-bet him preflop?

Foucault 03-25-2007 07:18 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Any reason you didn't 3-bet him preflop?

[/ QUOTE ]

Look at the stacks. If Hero 3-bets, AK successfully bluffs him, QQ+ take him for more than the minimum (and he loses the opportunity to flop a set and stack them), dominated hands fold, and he loses the opportunity to play his position post-flop. The only real benefit is folding out like AQ, KQ, and rag Aces. With position, this should be less of a concern.

Obviously calling flop and folding turn is super exploitable, but unless you know your opponent is capable of exploiting it, it's probably the best line anyway. The fact the board is paired may even help you to get a cheap showdown, if Villain is particularly pessimistic/passive.

Turning a J is really my preferred line though.

Bond18 03-25-2007 08:21 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
Yea as far as pre flop goes i really prefer calling.

As long as we're on the subject, what do people do with QQ here pre? (I lean towards reraising more)

registrar 03-25-2007 08:25 AM

Re: I have no clue how to continue (UB 100)
 
Probably raise, depending on table and site. You want it heads up so a raise if necessary to do that. If it's likely to be just you and CO anyway, I tend to prefer a call.


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