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TreMomey 03-22-2007 08:26 AM

Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
80 players left in Sunday Million on PS. I am 3rd overall in chips and the BB is 4th overall. He has been at this table for about 5 or 6 hands and this is the first Button/SB/BB confrontation that we've had. He didn't instashove but he shoved before he had to hit his time button so it was about 15-20 seconds if that matters. Avg stack in the tournament is 870k and chip leader has like 2.2 mil

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30000/t60000
(Ante: t3000)
9 players
Converter
Hero (Button): 1706072 in chips
SB: 350662 in chips
BB: 1581612 in chips

Hero is dealt:[Kc As]
Pre-flop: (9 players)
6 folds, Button raises to t165000, SB raises all-in t347662, BB raises all-in t1578612.

registrar 03-22-2007 08:36 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
What have you got or are you asking what you need to call? For me QQ+, maybe AKs.

TreMomey 03-22-2007 08:37 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
sorry.. didn't realize converter left out my hand.. edited post accordingly

hard2tel 03-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
Easy call.

If BB is competent he could be isolating with AJ+...88-99+ probably. gamble baby.

registrar 03-22-2007 08:44 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
Man, that's so tough. BB's range has to be AQs+, JJ+. Maybe TT. OK, if this were a $109, then I'm instacalling. I think in the Million with your stack, I'd probably fold. Top 10 stacks with 80 left in the Million don't come round very often. That's pretty gay, because calling is +EV.

dgg2dmy 03-22-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 

Hero (Button) could be stealing the blinds, or have a hand.
Could have anything as low as 8 10o or as good as AA,KK.

SB: Getting Desperate, knows the Button could be stealing probably has a pair 22+, A10+.

BB: Knows the button could be stealing and will fold most hands he could be holding, he is not bothered about the SB calling as he has only 350K and cant put him out.
However if the Button was not stealing then he could put the BB out so, this move is not a bluff. He has something, My guess Big Pair QQ+ maybe AK.
Any other hand is not profitable as he has to be able to beat the SB.

My opinion the Button can only call with AA, any other play is not profitable in this position. You have good EV to do well in the tourney, fold good EV, play and lose will be a disaster.

Fold and wait for a better spot...hard I know to pass KK, but this is the play you must do...Tough game I know...You can win the tourney with your current chips that you have.

TheFoxNL 03-22-2007 08:55 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
fold with your stack you can go deep
let this guy have the SB you loose 165k and get to know what villian is pushing with from BB thats the price you pay for the read on him
fold and continue playing and making some money [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

dgg2dmy 03-22-2007 08:58 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
Just before I get a load of replies saying fold KK your mad, think of the BB range only QQ you are the total favourite. AKs is dodgy, AA your crushed.

Call with KK you would be gambling, its just not worth it.

An earlier comment about isolating with AJ+ somebody made, Trust me a good player would not make this play to win 350K by risking 1.6mill against the only player at the table who can knock him out.

registrar 03-22-2007 09:02 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
So a good player in BB does what with 99 or AJs? Hero happens to have AKo, but hero's button raising range has to be huge.

hard2tel 03-22-2007 09:08 AM

Re: Tough spot, Sunday Million
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just before I get a load of replies saying fold KK your mad, think of the BB range only QQ you are the total favourite. AKs is dodgy, AA your crushed.

Call with KK you would be gambling, its just not worth it.

An earlier comment about isolating with AJ+ somebody made, Trust me a good player would not make this play to win 350K by risking 1.6mill against the only player at the table who can knock him out.

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually hes risking the 1.6 mil to win 560k. Button's range is pretty big here....sb and bb know that. BB knows sb knows that also...so u loosen sb's range a bit...which in turn loosens BB's isolating range. Maybe AJ and 88 are out of his range....but not AQ and 99.


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