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Whisper 03-18-2007 05:58 PM

600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
The villian in this hand is very aggro. His AF was 13, but over a smallish sample. This min raise here seems to be all the rage now after that video. Bet out flop or no?

Full Tilt Poker
$3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BB: $646.2
UTG: $1010.85
CO: $1304.25
BTN: $105.60
Hero (SB): $1048

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9, 5 players)
UTG folds, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, BB calls $15

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($42, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $70</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?!?!?

ddubois 03-18-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
What video?

berserk 03-18-2007 08:09 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
Call, check and reeval turn, or bet/fold turn again but this is a bit transparent a lot of the time depending on your style.

rjohson 03-18-2007 08:31 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
make the call, the only reason he called the preflop raise because there was only 2 of you and he felt obligated to call since hes in the blinds, the flop rerase was a bluff to scare you off the pot, if u spike you 8 you have a hiher straight them him.if in fact he has one.

Womble 03-18-2007 08:37 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
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What video?

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GPs most recent

KingGordy 03-18-2007 08:57 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
I like a fold here. You're behind a lot, and the times you're not behind you're not that far ahead and have a lot of reverse implied odds working against you. Even if he's semibluffing you're going to have a hell of a turn decision if he fires again, so you'll probably have to make a sick tough calldown to get this to show down. About half the turn cards in the deck basically kill whatever value your hand has as well.

oe39 03-18-2007 10:29 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
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make the call, the only reason he called the preflop raise because there was only 2 of you and he felt obligated to call since hes in the blinds, the flop rerase was a bluff to scare you off the pot, if u spike you 8 you have a hiher straight them him.if in fact he has one.

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huh?

RikkiDee 03-19-2007 06:44 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
I don't know the answer, but folding TPGK in a bvb battle to a min raise seems hilariously exploitable

JLimbs 03-19-2007 06:58 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
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I don't know the answer, but folding TPGK in a bvb battle to a min raise seems hilariously exploitable

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I agree, folding here against an aggro opponent in bvb is shameful. Obviously you don't want to play a huge pot out of position either, so I think the move is to call then check almost any turn and play from there. It sounds weak but you pick up bluff equity by letting him stab again on the turn.

-Jerry

obiedman 03-19-2007 07:16 PM

Re: 600nl - QJ TP in BvB
 
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I don't know the answer, but folding TPGK in a bvb battle to a min raise seems hilariously exploitable

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it's hilariously exploitable if you're doing it a lot, but I don't see why it can't be correct, and even good, in certain situations. this board sucks and can only really get worse, so i don't mind a fold here.


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