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Bobbin 03-18-2007 12:16 AM

QQ postflop
 
Villain is 18/12


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($195)
Hero ($277.21)
BB ($196.20)
UTG ($189.20)
MP ($355.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $17.

Flop: ($52) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, MP calls $35.

Turn: ($122) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60.

River: ($242) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $115</font>, Hero folds.

benlj21 03-18-2007 12:42 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
I kinda like a turn fold this deep. I don't think we can ever play for stacks, and it looks like he will force us to. I think you could check-raise sometimes, but I think check-fold is best.

yad 03-18-2007 12:44 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
I think this is fine. I don't like a turn c/r.

sixhigh 03-18-2007 12:45 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
No. If you want fold, fold the turn. Otherwise you should also call the completely blank river.

I would have bet more on the flop, too.

Better Than U 03-18-2007 12:46 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
No. If you want fold, fold the turn. Otherwise you should also call the completely blank river.

[/ QUOTE ]I disagree very strongly. I like the way OP played this.

[Phill] 03-18-2007 12:48 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
sixhigh is so on the money its unbelievable - if you fold to a blank river, why call the turn?

Bet more on the flop too, 44 looks right to me.

I shoulda just quoted sixhigh actually, looking back.

yad 03-18-2007 12:50 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
sixhigh is so on the money its unbelievable - if you fold to a blank river, why call the turn?


[/ QUOTE ]

this makes sense, but the fact is that most ABC 18/12s at this level will not turn T9 into a bluff on this river. They will only bet river if they have the flush.

nickg1532 03-18-2007 01:16 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
i think i like a turn fold too. this seems like a "hammer of future bets" situation.

Fly 03-18-2007 01:32 AM

Re: QQ postflop
 
don't give action to nits!


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