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THAY3R 03-13-2007 03:59 PM

Another Satellite bubble question
 
Top 3 get seat($800), 4th is worth $155

PokerStars Game #8885054925: Tournament #44848134, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2007/03/13 - 15:55:24 (ET)
Table '44848134 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: striker2 (12480 in chips)
Seat 2: SiVTEC (29545 in chips)
Seat 4: THAY3R (13035 in chips)
Seat 9: DaButcher666 (34940 in chips)
striker2: posts the ante 75
SiVTEC: posts the ante 75
THAY3R: posts the ante 75
DaButcher666: posts the ante 75
SiVTEC: posts small blind 600
THAY3R: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to THAY3R [Kh Ks]
DaButcher666: folds
striker2: raises 11205 to 12405 and is all-in
SiVTEC: folds
THAY3R: calls 11205

kutuz_off 03-13-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
I'm not sure what the question is, but this is a very very easy call from where I stand.

DannyNSandy 03-13-2007 04:13 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
Instant call. LOL

Sherman 03-13-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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Instant call. LOL

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LOL at LOL. I hardly think this question is as simple as it appears.

kutuz_off 03-13-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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Instant call. LOL

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LOL at LOL. I hardly think this question is as simple as it appears.

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If the pusher was anyone but the shortie, it would be pretty close either way. Since this is the very guy you need to outlast, instacall indeed.

stewartkev 03-13-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
I'm inclined to calling here. I doubt I'd push my aces if I was the villain, so you're really looking at prob 70/30 edge if he has an ace. Do you get a better chance to get your money in?

As an aside, I'm just starting to add my thoughts to questions, so be gentle with me! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Sherman 03-13-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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Instant call. LOL

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LOL at LOL. I hardly think this question is as simple as it appears.

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If the pusher was anyone but the shortie, it would be pretty close either way. Since this is the very guy you need to outlast, instacall indeed.

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I am referring to the fact that certainly more information is available than this. For example, are all players playing optimally (folding when the shorty shoves). If so, it may be best to fold here and keep open shoving yourself. Especially if the short stack isn't playing optimally (i.e. isn't shoving enough himself).

I'd probably call in this situation too, but I'm not sure it is right.

Sherman 03-13-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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I doubt I'd push my aces if I was the villain, so you're really looking at prob 70/30 edge if he has an ace.

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I'd push aces here if I had them.

kindling 03-13-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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I doubt I'd push my aces if I was the villain, so you're really looking at prob 70/30 edge if he has an ace.

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I'd push aces here if I had them.

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Agreed. You push Aces here, because shorty should be pushing a wide range. So anything other than a push would be suspicious.

However, I still call.

kutuz_off 03-13-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Another Satellite bubble question
 
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I am referring to the fact that certainly more information is available than this. For example, are all players playing optimally (folding when the shorty shoves). If so, it may be best to fold here and keep open shoving yourself. Especially if the short stack isn't playing optimally (i.e. isn't shoving enough himself).

I'd probably call in this situation too, but I'm not sure it is right.

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If there is more information available, it's not in the OP. I'm answering the OP as stated. Given that neither of the two big stacks can call loosely like they could if they had humongous lead, your current edge, which I estimate to be 75-25 over his pushing range, is much better than your chances of outlasting the shortie by just staying afloat and waiting for him to bust.


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