NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

Villain is 42/8/1/24.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (CO): $48.90
BTN: $59.05
SB: $39.45
BB: $67.4
UTG: $59.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 5 players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BTN calls $2.50, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2, UTG folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 4 players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50, BTN folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($17.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

<font color="black">River:</font> 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($24.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6

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How do you play this differently if at all? Villain is characteristically quite passive.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

I guess I might fold the flop here

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

Calling all the way gives you no information. Did you have any idea what he had when you called the river? Because I sure as hell don't know.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

So what do you suggest? Raise the flop? If so, how much?

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

i think that when a passive player bets into this flop and into 3 other players its not worth calling him here.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

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Calling all the way gives you no information.

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Would you prefer to raise the pot, face a push, and fold knowing you were beat? Or what if you just get called? Does this mean you suddenly know your hand is best and you can confidently bet the turn for value?

If Villain is going to make small little bets and you don't have that much of a hand, really, sometimes it's okay just to call and find out at showdown whether Villain had you beat or not.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

I think that, since Villain is quite passive and he bet into a preflop raiser and two other players on a king-high flop, I would just fold the flop. Even though his small bet sort of looks like an attempt to set his own price for his draw, in this case I think it's more likely that he's making a timid bet with top pair.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

i play the same ... not sure if it's the best though.

Re: NL50 (6): 88 on a Kxx drawish board
 

I probably play that hand the exact same way and hate myself the whole way for it - call down and make a note. It often pays off though as I am constantly surprised by how often even passive players will take that same line with either a 6 or a 5 in their hand or a draw.

Folding the flop wouldn't be bad here though. I'd be hard pressed to pull the trigger on a raise.